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Destroyed Iraqi T64 tanks from the first Iraq/Kuwait War, the original was on Fuji Color Film, but kind of like this B&W versions??

Camera:Contax RTS III
Lens:Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 28mm f/2.8
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:5 Jan 2013 - 2:43 PM
Title:High Cost
Username:Mike43 Mike43
Uploaded:5 Jan 2013 - 3:11 PM
Tags:Black & white, Landscape / travel
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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jan 2013 - 4:26 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

An interesting shot, old or not recorded with top notch hardware in the good old days of film.

My take to this is that I feel the tanks are a bit too tight in the frame, perhaps more space would allow the location to be better seen albeit with a levelled horizon. The juxtaposition of the two tanks then could be retained but with the two a little further apart I think it would have more impact. Something that were it not for you we would perhaps never see this kind of picture.

The tank graffiti makes me wonder whether or not the Iraqis wrote all sorts of stuff before setting out to dominitate the middle east and Kuwait in particular, or if it was written by the conquering heroes by way of literate retaliation.

The B&W version pleases you but it does make me wonder what the colour version would look like, maybe all sandy and camouflage colours.

Frank

Last Modified By Focus_Man at 5 Jan 2013 - 4:27 PM

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pablophotographer
pablophotographer e2 Member 3498 forum postspablophotographer vcard 188 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jan 2013 - 5:44 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi, having seen your pic I checked on the internet and found more about Contax G rangefinders. (Impressive cameras they are with ability to shoot 3:2, 1:1 and 16:9 on 35mm film!) it seems your Contax can do the same and this capacity paid off for this shot that included both tanks. The crew seem to have fled since the doors are opened and the hits taken were done on the most vulnerable part of the tanks ( the caterpillars ). The writing seems to have been done after the hits, the letters are not Arabic, not even on the canons. I am not sure about the black and white conversion of it, this white-ish looking space above the canon of the closest tank looks like sand being taken up in the air by tha wind, and colour would help clarify this, or show any other dark clouds of burning oil, or war material. I understand though that the black ansd white brings out the grim nature of war...
It's a testament that you were there and most likely, happy you are back from there.

Overall, it manages impact and reflection, so well done.

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paulbroad
paulbroad e2 Member 789 forum postspaulbroad vcard United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jan 2013 - 7:19 PM

This is a very interesting image. I like the tight composition, but the result is very un-natural with lots of artefacts. However, I actually think that helps the surreal effect here. Good stuff.

Paul

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Sooty_1 Critique Team 41267 forum postsSooty_1 vcard United Kingdom203 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jan 2013 - 9:02 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I'm not big on this one, I'm afraid. It looks to me like an artificially darkened sky with haloes round the gun barrels, which makes it all look a bit unreal and overworked. I agree colour might be better, though its quite hard to bring out all those different colours of sand. And yes, I am familiar with this landscape.

Obviously taken a while after the conflict, the most dangerous thing here might be the residual DU in the shells used to destroy them. There are a lot of pictures here, but I feel the emphasis is more on the processing than on the subject, which is a shame.

Nick

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