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I know I always bemoan my luck with bad conditions and my cheap kit BUT it was really dark yesterday morning. Strangely I think the kit did O.K. to even get anything,....see Exif.
The sky WAS that bland.

Brand:OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
Camera:Olympus E-520
Lens:135-400
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:2 May 2012 - 10:45 AM
Focal Length:200mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.5
Aperture:f/5.2
Shutter Speed:1/80sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:Auto, Did not fire
Title:In a Flap
Username:ringyneck ringyneck
Uploaded:3 May 2012 - 12:04 PM
Tags:Birds, General, Kestrel., Wildlife / nature
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debu
debu  4 India
3 May 2012 - 12:08 PM

A couple of good captures.
debu

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ugly
ugly e2 Member 6ugly vcard United Kingdom55 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 12:11 PM

A very nice set of images...
V1 is best by far...
Great work....

Dave

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Glyn1
Glyn1  5 England1 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 12:33 PM

Well captured Keith, never managed to get close enough as yet, but here's hoping.Wink

Glyn

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece17 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 12:34 PM

V.1 is superb, Keith, great focusing and presentation. Carol

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jasonrwl
jasonrwl e2 Member 4137 forum postsjasonrwl vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

I think v1 is a supwrb image - never mind the bland sky the kestrel is fantastic
Jason

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gloccy  3 Scotland
3 May 2012 - 1:09 PM

Well captured. A fine example of how a kestrel can keep its eye on the prey whilst flapping like madSmile

Craig

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puertouk  21073 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 1:45 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

How did you manage to get a shot like that at 1/80 second @ 200mm? Your shutter speed should have been around 1/300, not 1/80. You would find using a higher shutter speed, the wings would then have been better focused. I take it your camera is a 1.6 crop? Maybe using an ISO of around 400 instead of 100 would have worked better. Hope this helps, but not a bad image.
Stephen

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Briwooly
Briwooly  8452 forum posts England5 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 2:58 PM

Nice one Keith nothing wrong with the kit

Brian.....................

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christinecilia
christinecilia e2 Member 2christinecilia vcard England
3 May 2012 - 3:27 PM

like bouth v s great capturs Grin

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mhfore  7 England176 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 4:03 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Keith,

Another good capture, well done.

Keith there is a little more colour to come out in this image which can be done in a few ways, but the easiest is to use the "Shadows/Highlights" option. If you use PS go to "Image" > "Adjustments" > "Shadows/Highlights" or in Elements "Enhance" > "Adjust Lighting" > "Shadow/Highlights". These slider's do what it say's on the tin so to speak and will bring a little more detail out.

Take care
Martin

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Gerryrys
Gerryrys  2 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 4:05 PM

V1 is excellent. Well captured

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AnnChown e2 Member 4183 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 5:50 PM

v1 is excellent!
Ann

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Martin54 e2 Member 8497 forum postsMartin54 vcard United Kingdom
3 May 2012 - 6:31 PM


Quote: Your shutter speed should have been around 1/300, not 1/80. You would find using a higher shutter speed, the wings would then have been better focused.

I think the shutter speed is just right, the blur in the wings shos how still these birds hold their head when they are hovering. I've wanted to take a shot like this myself but never had teh opportunity. Well done!

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pluckyfilly e2 Member 8283 forum postspluckyfilly vcard United Kingdom33 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 7:39 PM

well captured in flight - what do you mean by your cheap kit? you do well in your photographySmile

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SUE118 e2 Member 6SUE118 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 8:03 PM

Super shot.

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Samuel_Aron
3 May 2012 - 8:43 PM

Fantastic capture!
Beautiful feather detail and the motion blur is great. It gives a excellent effect.
Sam.

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ringyneck  7308 forum posts United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 10:26 PM


Quote: How did you manage to get a shot like that at 1/80 second @ 200mm? Your shutter speed should have been around 1/300, not 1/80. You would find using a higher shutter speed, the wings would then have been better focused. I take it your camera is a 1.6 crop? Maybe using an ISO of around 400 instead of 100 would have worked better. Hope this helps, but not a bad image.
Stephen

Thanks Stephen.......
How did you manage to get a shot like that at 1/80 second @ 200mm? ...just pure skill Grin
The exif says 200mm but it should be nearer 400 as I had the lens fully extended .....the electrics are b***ered after it went for a swim last summer.And I cannot focus past a certain distance depending on how far I have it extended...infinity is right out of the window.

Your shutter speed should have been around 1/300, not 1/80. You would find using a higher shutter speed, the wings would then have been better focused.......Yes I know all this but it was almost night (11 a.m. ??) and I am shooting on A.P. so the speed sets itself.

I take it your camera is a 1.6 crop?...No it's 2.

Maybe using an ISO of around 400 instead of 100 would have worked better. .......Stephen I have tried in the past in ideal conditions to use higher iso's but it causes so much noise I get awful stick from people (not so much on epz though)...so I stick with 100 to hopefully maintain any quality I might get.
If I do get noise I run it through NR but I have to do it all over as I don't think the software allows for just doing just a b/g etc.
The only other option would be to get a more modern camera that does the mega iso's.

Hope this helps, but not a bad image......yes thanks for taking the time to help me.

Cheers
Keith

Last Modified By ringyneck at 3 May 2012 - 10:28 PM

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ringyneck
ringyneck  7308 forum posts United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 10:33 PM


Quote: Hi Keith,

Another good capture, well done.

Keith there is a little more colour to come out in this image which can be done in a few ways, but the easiest is to use the "Shadows/Highlights" option. If you use PS go to "Image" > "Adjustments" > "Shadows/Highlights" or in Elements "Enhance" > "Adjust Lighting" > "Shadow/Highlights". These slider's do what it say's on the tin so to speak and will bring a little more detail out.

Take care
Martin

Hi Martin....thanks for the Mod and instructions.....it certainly has made it better.
Sorry but I do not have the Shadows/highlights on P/shop 7.
I did try and get some better detail out of it with levels....contrast...Sats etc but it would not have it and kept reverting to just darker in the breast.

Cheers
Keith

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ringyneck
ringyneck  7308 forum posts United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 10:47 PM


Quote: Well captured in flight - what do you mean by your cheap kit? you do well in your photographySmile

Cheers ANN......you know me always putting myself down Sad

CHEAP.....to put in context I am currently organising to hire a lens from Olympus for 3 days and it will cost about the same as my camera did to buy .......mind you it is the top of the range and to buy is over 5500.Lets hope the sun comes out ...he he.

Thanks
Keith Smile

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ringyneck
ringyneck  7308 forum posts United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
3 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

Thanks to everyone else for looking and commenting......I think it does work with the blurred wings but also if I had some better luck they might be in focus and it would be O.K. as well.

Keith

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