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Just a stunning sunset - how could I improve the shot?

Brand:Casio COMPUTER CO.,LTD
Camera:Casio Exilim EX-Z750
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:3 Jun 2006 - 8:48 PM
Focal Length:23.7mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/5.1
Shutter Speed:1/60sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Landscape
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Manual
Title:June Sunset in Coda Covallo, Sardinia
Username:Jeremy_Smith Jeremy_Smith
Uploaded:20 Mar 2013 - 10:01 AM
Tags:Landscape / travel
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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
20 Mar 2013 - 10:42 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

A stunning sky. Just alight with the sun's fire.
The composition is good in that it includes some foreground which gives some perspective and scale to the scene. I like the hill rising to the right which helps frame the distant mountainous shore.
One point I would make is the photo is mainly about the dramatic sky. The land shapes only add a little.
What I'm saying is that it's a little short on interest.
Sunsets such as this can be used to great effect by including something of interest, perhaps forming the main interest. A castle, a boat, a pier, an interesting building with the sky beyond.
Just my view, I'm always looking for good sunsets behind (say) our local pier, I know the scene, I just need your sky.
regards
Ian

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
20 Mar 2013 - 10:50 AM

I've done a mod (click modifications above). I have lightened the shadows a little to show the trees as (dark) green with more detail.
I did this in photoshop CS6. If you don't have software, Gimp is good and free, photoshop elements is excellent and your can pick up ed.7 or 8 cheap.

Last Modified By iancrowson at 20 Mar 2013 - 10:51 AM

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Joline e2 Member 8Joline vcard United States51 Constructive Critique Points
20 Mar 2013 - 12:03 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I am not a member of the critique team, but I don't agree with lightening the image at all. The lovely shapes of the trees and distant hill are beautifully silhouetted,and are nicely balance. I would clone out the small dark bush in the lower right. Sometimes nature's drama is so beautiful that it doesn't need to have any man made object in the scene, in fact in this case I think it would spoil the image.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom850 Constructive Critique Points
20 Mar 2013 - 4:15 PM

The more people that comment the better. Not enough actually do! This is strong initially, but is just a very nice sky with no subject as such. I keep these mages as stock to paste onto others that need a sky. Sunsets still need a subject with the sky acting as the background.

Paul

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Jeremy_Smith
20 Mar 2013 - 4:30 PM

[quote]A stunning sky. Just alight with the sun's fire.
The composition is good in that it includes some foreground which gives some perspective and scale to the scene. I like the hill rising to the right which helps frame the distant mountainous shore.
One point I would make is the photo is mainly about the dramatic sky. The land shapes only add a little.
What I'm saying is that it's a little short on interest.
Sunsets such as this can be used to great effect by including something of interest, perhaps forming the main interest. A castle, a boat, a pier, an interesting building with the sky beyond.
Just my view, I'm always looking for good sunsets behind (say) our local pier, I know the scene, I just need your sky.
regards
Hello Ian, Thank you for your comments and I absolutely agree with them. I was of half a mind not to use this photo for my gallery as it almost exclusively featured the fiery sunset sky, then again I thought it was so stunning, (in my terms as a novice in the field of photography), that I went ahead. There weren't other features around such as boats, jetty's etc. But I could used the land more effectively. Thank you again for your very helpful comments, Kind Regards, Jeremy

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Jeremy_Smith
20 Mar 2013 - 4:36 PM


Quote: I've done a mod (click modifications above). I have lightened the shadows a little to show the trees as (dark) green with more detail.
I did this in photoshop CS6. If you don't have software, Gimp is good and free, photoshop elements is excellent and your can pick up ed.7 or 8 cheap.

Thanks again Ian, I will try Gimp. Much appreciated, Kind regards, Jeremy

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Jeremy_Smith
20 Mar 2013 - 4:47 PM


Quote: I am not a member of the critique team, but I don't agree with lightening the image at all. The lovely shapes of the trees and distant hill are beautifully silhouetted,and are nicely balance. I would clone out the small dark bush in the lower right. Sometimes nature's drama is so beautiful that it doesn't need to have any man made object in the scene, in fact in this case I think it would spoil the image.


Quote: I am not a member of the critique team, but I don't agree with lightening the image at all. The lovely shapes of the trees and distant hill are beautifully silhouetted,and are nicely balance. I would clone out the small dark bush in the lower right. Sometimes nature's drama is so beautiful that it doesn't need to have any man made object in the scene, in fact in this case I think it would spoil the image.

Hi Joline, Many thanks. Glad you liked this dramatic sunset, it was amazing being there to see it at the time. I have not enhanced this photo in any way, so cropping the bush on the right hand corner is a good suggestion. I see your from America - if you havent been to Sardinia, an Italian Island I would recommend it There is a lot of dramatic scenary and fantastic beaches. Thanks again, Kind regards, Jeremy

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Jeremy_Smith
20 Mar 2013 - 4:48 PM


Quote: The more people that comment the better. Not enough actually do! This is strong initially, but is just a very nice sky with no subject as such. I keep these mages as stock to paste onto others that need a sky. Sunsets still need a subject with the sky acting as the background.

Paul

Quite agree Paul. Thanks for your comments. Kind Regards, Jeremy

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41197 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
20 Mar 2013 - 9:02 PM

I think you are limited by the equipment here. I'd love a really wide sweep of that sky, and that would mean a wider lens. That would also shrink the foreground, so you might have to move to recompose.
I don't think lightening helps at all. It just looks tonemapped (effectively what was done by changing the relative tonal values) like a bad HDR. Silhouettes are better so they don't detract from the lovely sky, but what they do need to be is sharp. This has a feeling of softness, and I'd prefer it to be slightly better defined. It may even be due to resizing and upload, so the sharpness may be there in the original.

NIck

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Jeremy_Smith
21 Mar 2013 - 7:13 AM


Quote: I think you are limited by the equipment here. I'd love a really wide sweep of that sky, and that would mean a wider lens. That would also shrink the foreground, so you might have to move to recompose.
I don't think lightening helps at all. It just looks tonemapped (effectively what was done by changing the relative tonal values) like a bad HDR. Silhouettes are better so they don't detract from the lovely sky, but what they do need to be is sharp. This has a feeling of softness, and I'd prefer it to be slightly better defined. It may even be due to resizing and upload, so the sharpness may be there in the original.

NIck

Hi Nick, Many thanks - I need to invest more in equipment agreed. I have to embarasingley admit that this was shot with a Casio EXILIM compact digital 7 mp camera. I was on my way out to a little village for dinner, hence I didn't have my Canon - having said that. I probably more excellent pictures with that compact than the Canon - I am dubious about the Sigma lens I have with it. Great and useful comments thank you. Kind regards, Jeremy

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41197 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
21 Mar 2013 - 3:50 PM

We've all been there..the great vista in front of you and limited equipment with which to shoot it! All you can do is work within it's limitations. Maybe revisit the spot another time?

Nick

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