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critque welcome as im trying to improve on my pics

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 40D
Lens:50-500mm
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:16 Mar 2013 - 4:39 PM
Focal Length:191mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/5.7
Aperture:f/6.3
Shutter Speed:1/1600sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:400
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:kestrel
Username:maudharry maudharry
Uploaded:16 Mar 2013 - 8:16 PM
Tags:Kestrel bird of prey, Wildlife / nature
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chase
chase Critique Team 91118 forum postschase vcard England240 Constructive Critique Points
16 Mar 2013 - 8:50 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

A good capture,nicely positioned in the frame & a well timed shot to get the all important catchlight in the eye.
Good colour,some nice detail & looks good against the clear blue of the sky.
Not an easy shot to take & get right but you have done well here.
Personally I would like to see a wee bit more room around your subject generally as it looks a touch tight in the frame.There are some slight halos around the top edges of the wings which could be a sharpening issue there,easily remedied in your editing program with the clone tool...duplicate your layer, select an area of the sky,set the tool to 'darken' & sweep around the edges..flatten...job sorted Wink
A good straight capture,well done !

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maudharry
maudharry  1
16 Mar 2013 - 9:16 PM

thanks chase appreiated

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 1124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
16 Mar 2013 - 10:11 PM

Hi Darren

I agree with Chase this is a nice image but a bit more space around the wings for me would have been nice.

I'm looking at this on a laptop so it may be just me but I feel the colours could be a little stronger, I've loaded a mod to demonstrate let me know what you think.

Erik Grin

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maudharry
maudharry  1
16 Mar 2013 - 10:41 PM

thanks for the mod but way over the top for me

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maudharry
maudharry  1
16 Mar 2013 - 10:58 PM

not being funny he was 15 feet from me and his colours definaltly didnt look like the mod

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 1124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
16 Mar 2013 - 11:04 PM

Don't worry Darren its me using my laptop - the colours aren't the best and it doesn't calibrate well. Its a great image well taken.

Erik Grin

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maudharry
maudharry  1
16 Mar 2013 - 11:21 PM

sorry i like critque but this looks like he has been tangoed i know you where just trying to help so thanks

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
17 Mar 2013 - 7:50 AM

The original colours are right. The mod is rather too warm. You will not do much better than this either, and the crop is spot on. Fill the frame is always a good rule, told to me by a photographer many years ago who was very, very good and had the awards to prove it. Cannot see why the bird would want to be smaller, it's the bird that we want to see, not more sky.

A cracking shot of the highest standard. Wish it were mine.

Paul

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Maiwand
Maiwand e2 Member 7Maiwand vcard England69 Constructive Critique Points
17 Mar 2013 - 9:30 AM


Quote: The original colours are right. The mod is rather too warm. You will not do much better than this either, and the crop is spot on. Fill the frame is always a good rule, told to me by a photographer many years ago who was very, very good and had the awards to prove it. Cannot see why the bird would want to be smaller, it's the bird that we want to see, not more sky.

A cracking shot of the highest standard. Wish it were mine.

Paul

I agree with this comment 100%. I love this shot.
Ron

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Trev_B
Trev_B e2 Member 7110 forum postsTrev_B vcard England64 Constructive Critique Points
17 Mar 2013 - 11:21 AM

I am with Janet, Chase, on this one. My initial thought was a lovely detailed image that is too tight in the frame, I feel it needs some room above an below the bird.

Just a personal view.... Smile

Trev

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
17 Mar 2013 - 4:07 PM

its all down to monitor calibration, the colours look beautiful to me as does the tone of the sky and the feather detail is fabulous. in fact is a lovely picture and i would be proud to have one as good in flight.

i too would have preferred to see a little bit more space above and possibly below too but not much. but that is easy to do by extending canvas and patching in some sky to fill the voids.

in connection with the argument above regarding scale. my concern with frame filling is this, here the bird at normal viewing distance is reasonably proportional to its size in reality, in that if printed it would stll look proportional. now go and fill the frame with a blue tit, and make a A3 print or project on to a sceen and it will look rediculously large.

in otherwords a kestrel at full size would just about fit on an A3 sheet and still look right scale, a blue tit filling a full A3 sheet would like a prehistoric monster.

cant fault the pic of the bird at all apart from the possible oversharpening noted by Janet but at this scale on my laptop i couldnt comment on that

Phil

Last Modified By NEWMANP at 17 Mar 2013 - 4:09 PM

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Robinsons
Robinsons  1 United Kingdom
17 Mar 2013 - 7:43 PM


Quote: Hi Darren

I agree with Chase this is a nice image but a bit more space around the wings for me would have been nice.

I'm looking at this on a laptop so it may be just me but I feel the colours could be a little stronger, I've loaded a mod to demonstrate let me know what you think.

Erik Grin

i personally think you need to calibrate your screen as you have way over saturated this mod, the colours are not natural in this . i prefer the original.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
18 Mar 2013 - 2:55 PM

Viewing distance and cropping in frame are two very different things. Composition is personal of course, but an A3 print is meant to be on a wall and viewed from several metres away. A 7x5, for example, is meant to be viewed in the hand. Does it matter if the subject is larger than life? Surely not. Look at bill boards and posters.

If the quality will take it, the bigger the better, but get the viewing distance right.

Paul

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