Login or Join Now

Upload your photos, chat, win prizes and much more

Username:
Password:
Remember Me

Can't Access your Account?

New to ePHOTOzine? Join ePHOTOzine for free!

Kids

Join Now

Join ePHOTOzine, the friendliest photography community.

Upload photos, chat with photographers, win prizes and much more for free!

Add Comment

This is my third uplad. The two upload before, didn't attrack the critique team, only attracked some fellow photographer who nicely give construqtive comment on first image and just saying nice color on second image. so, I change my image into black & white (thank u Ben Freer for the idea). because i think, my image doesn't sharp enough and can't compete in color with other image taken from SLR.

Just playing with composition and a few adjustment using photoscape and irfanview, and hopefully the image can looks "classic" and can attrack the critique team to comment Grin

Brand:Nokia
Lens:nokia
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:12 Sep 2010 - 9:40 AM
Title:Kids
Username:arhab arhab
Uploaded:3 Mar 2012 - 4:34 PM
Tags:Black & white, Portraits / people
VS Mode Rating 100 (40% won)
These stats show the percentage of wins and the rating score that your photo has achieved. You can go to the VS Mode by clicking on this icon.

Signup to e2

Signup to e2 to see which photo this has won or lost against in the vs mode
Votes:Voting Disabled
Critque wantedCritique Wanted
Modifications wanted Modifications Welcome (Upload a Modification)
Awards have been disabled on this photo

Comments

This photo is here for critique. Please only comment constructively and with suggestions on how to improve it.
DonSchaeffer
3 Mar 2012 - 4:47 PM

Nice balance between sidewalk lines and children

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 4:58 PM

Thank you DonSmile

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

mhfore
mhfore  7 England176 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 5:29 PM

Hi Arhab,

While you have captured a good subject with children playing I feel you have cropped this image to tight at the top. You have captured some blur in the hand of the little boy who is jumping but surley he if jumps any higher he's going to bang his head on the top of the image. This image would work a lot better if you had left more space at the top, of course, this my opinion only.

Take care

Martin

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

DRicherby
DRicherby  5269 forum posts United Kingdom725 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 5:46 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Welcome to ePhotozine!

I'm sorry we didn't pick up on your earlier uploads. It's quite hard to give useful critique on photos taken with phones because the photographer has very little control over the results -- essentially, all you can do is point the camera in the right direction, press the button and hope for the best.

From your uploads so far, it seems you have a good eye for a photograph. Here, you've found an interesting subject and the children look comfortable in front of the camera. There is quite a lot of empty space to the sides, though, and, like Martin, I feel it would be helpful to have a bit more space at the top. More space at the bottom would let you get the whole of the nearer boy into the frame, too. All of this suggests a portrait orientation rather than landscape.

I'm not sure that black and white is really the best choice here. I imagine these children wearing brightly-coloured clothes, standing out against a dull concrete background and I think that might make the shot stronger. I don't agree with the premise that black and white somehow hides the lack of detail in the shot and, in fact, I think it makes detail more important because there's no colour to distract my attention. However, I do think you've done the black and white conversion fairly well and it has a decent amount of contrast. It looks like you've tried to sharpen, which has introduced a few haloes; unfortunately, while sharpening is good for intensifying detail that's already present, it can't create detail that the camera has missed.

I hope that doesn't sound too negative and that it doesn't discourage you. Working with a phone camera tends to be quite limiting and, to get the best out of it, you have to work within those limitations. Because there's often substantial 'shutter lag' (you press the button and it waits a second or three before taking the photo), action shots are hard; the cameras tend to do badly in low light, too. You have a good eye so keep looking out for things to photograph and keep practising!

Dave.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 7:14 PM

Dave and Martin, thank u for the suggestion. Unfortunately can't give any space again on the bottom. And yes, it's hard working with a phone camera. while, my focus is learning the composition.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 11:37 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

i like the composition and it works quite well in mono which provides an old fashioned reportage feel. often, quite normal pictures are transformed into serious work simply by a mono conversion.

the leaping child works really well and i dont mind at all the croping at the base which has been done in an acceptable position. has it been halfway down the legs, it may not have worked as well.

as its taken on a phone its never going to be an image in which you have any control over its exposure and focus so its hard to pass comment in that way and in that sense its not one that should be up for critique, however an image is an image and the way its taken reflects its finished qualities so i shall continue as if it were taken on a dslr.

it was taken in flat light which is a bad start to most pictures and the inherent lack of contrast has been compensated for in postprocessing creating blown highlights and overall a lack of sharpness in areas that aught to be sharp.

the very white triangular shape top left is quite distracting and i wonder if it may be possible to clone it away.

i like the shot but it would have been better taken on a camera with some control over some photographic decisions and with some better light.

stick with the mono and i think you will get some good results from this type of shot

regards
Phil

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41192 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
4 Mar 2012 - 10:26 AM

I am not really a fan of shooting down on kids from adult height. So, in addition to the comments made (especially by Dave), I would suggest getting down to the childrens' level.

Nick

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
6 Mar 2012 - 6:29 AM


Quote: as its taken on a phone its never going to be an image in which you have any control over its exposure and focus so its hard to pass comment in that way and in that sense its not one that should be up for critique, however an image is an image and the way its taken reflects its finished qualities so i shall continue as if it were taken on a dslr.
Yes, I believe from this image even dslr user will get any lesson

it was taken in flat light which is a bad start to most pictures and the inherent lack of contrast has been compensated for in postprocessing creating blown highlights and overall a lack of sharpness in areas that aught to be sharp.
Just google it for flat light. I understood now

the very white triangular shape top left is quite distracting and i wonder if it may be possible to clone it away.
I think just like you, but I don't know how to do it

i like the shot but it would have been better taken on a camera with some control over some photographic decisions and with some better light.
stick with the mono and i think you will get some good results from this type of shot
I noted it, and will try it in the future

regards
Rahman

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
6 Mar 2012 - 6:37 AM

Scooty, I don't see any images on your portfolio. Grin Yes I knew it. But, this images taken in 2010 when i have not learned photography. If you see unedit version... it's bad. And you know, it's hard to shoot on kids who running here and there.Smile Thank you scooty to remind me...

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

- Original Poster Comments
- Your Posts

Add a Comment

You must be a member to leave a comment

Username:
Password:
Remember me:
Un-tick this box if you want to login each time you visit.