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Any comments welcome always learning Smile Trying the rule of thirds!! not sure if I should have less water?

Brand:Canon
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:10 Nov 2012 - 2:32 PM
Focal Length:40mm
Aperture:f/11.0
Shutter Speed:1/160sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:Liverpool Skyline
Username:aligray aligray
Uploaded:13 Nov 2012 - 2:39 PM
Tags:Albert dock, Architecture, City, Ferry, Life, Liverpool, Museum, River mersey
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surfinsurveyor
13 Nov 2012 - 5:04 PM

My home city - always love a good shot of this ever changing waterfront skyline. I would crop out a large amount of the foreground water and also perhaps crop a little off the sky but take care to keep to the rule of thirds (it's not always essential but in this case I think it is). As long as the horizon is not cutting across the centre you should be OK. All that said, I still think you have a good image as it stands. GrinGrin

Keith

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10849 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2841 Constructive Critique Points
13 Nov 2012 - 5:16 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Youre so brave to suggest rule of thirds, - there may be a few members upset!. Im not one of them, and this is close to the rule, close enough in the vertical place to be fine.

Theres is something I fond odd though, and that the buildings especially the taller ones, are noticeably leaning towards the right in the image. This suggests to me that you used the waters edge as a level reference, whereas, it would be best to use the buildings vertical, because the water would actually be moving away from you as youve shot this at an angle, from the side rather than straight on.
This is my opinion, and I would like others to weigh in.

Its a little bright, somewhat in the sky, more so lower, so Ive loaded a mod with the crop using the buildings as a reference, and tweaked exposure. Lots of people here familiar with this location, so Im sure you will get more feedback.

I like it overall.


regards


Willie

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aligray
aligray  8
13 Nov 2012 - 6:53 PM

Thanks Keith

Thanks Willie for the mod, I did use the waters edge as you suggested - noted Smile keep the buildings straight Smile always learning trying to get better, and this is a great place to learn - thanks

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom850 Constructive Critique Points
13 Nov 2012 - 8:42 PM

Little to say. Would have a bit less water I think as there is nothing of interest in it.

Paul

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strokebloke
13 Nov 2012 - 9:15 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

You're right Willy. If the point where the water meets the land is not parallel to the plane in which you shoot, to use the land/water junction as a datum by which to level, will tip the buildings either right or left, depending upon the plane of the shot.

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iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
13 Nov 2012 - 10:03 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Willies mod deals with the water/ buildings issue correctly in my view. The idea that all water lines (except boats) should always be level is totally wrong. On a lake or wide river the land, (the shore line), is often converging relative to the camera position, clearly as it is here.
If we are looking out at the open sea we are looking at the horizon (horizontal)( which of course is actually curved but a short length can be taken as being straight/flat.) Vertical means at right angles to horizontal. Why the building are leaning in this image is because the shoreline was made horizontal.
So........if there is land on your 'horizon' be careful when straightening, you can not see the horizontal. (horizon)

Ian

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Tooth
Tooth  95772 forum posts Ireland227 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2012 - 12:06 PM

Just to add a bit more to this..

a) Rule of thirds is only a guide - IMO use at all means but not at the expensae of having tracts of blandness. I think this could be cropped from the bottom to just below where the diagonal band of bright water intersects n the left. It would still be thirds-ish but give more emphasis to the more intersting sky

b) correct about the buildings but just another hint - even if there are no buildings from which you can take a vertical reference, as long as there are reflections you have a reference...the line between a point and its reflection is always vertical, allowing for small variation due to rippling if present

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