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I tried a few photos this morning.I was amused to see the pigeon on the sign."Lost?I thought...unlikely for the pigeon, more likely for meSmile.I thought that it might make a good silhouette,but I wonder if it qualified as one.I'm not sure about the composition either, I cropped it from landscape frame.Also I'd like to know anything technically wrong with the photo.I didn't do anything on the photo, apart from reduced hightlight to -3, and increased shadow+1.I don't know what I should do really.Settings:F6.4;S1/1328;Focal length35mm;ISO200.All commments and criticism are very welcom.Thank you.

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Title:Lost?
Username:xwang xwang
Uploaded:15 Aug 2010 - 12:43 PM
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Tooth
Tooth  95772 forum posts Ireland227 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2010 - 2:58 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

"..might make a good silhouette, but wondered if it might qualify as one..."

No absolute rules of course, but I think silhouettes should be just that or not - ie they should be black with no detail in the shadows, or failing that brightened with significant detail pulled out of the shadows. In this case it's not quite black, with just a hint of detail in the shadows...and it ends up being frustrating as the eye wants to see more detail once there's a hint of it there (compounded in this case by Focus Man's good point about wanting to read the sign.

Focus man has shown that there is indeed a fair bit of detail in there. So, nice idea but maybe just not the best subject for silhouette-ish treatment

Stephen

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom845 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2010 - 4:14 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The subjective thing again. I think you are starting to 'see' pictures now rather than just recording scenes, and you have seen this one well. I like what you have done, but I might increase the contrast a bit more to make it a true silhoette.

Frank's version is Ok, but takes it back to a snapshot of a signpost for me - the silhouette is a pictorial image which, for me works as a central composition.

As a pure silhouette - full black, you could then select the silhouette with the magic sellection brush easily, then paste it onto a dramatic sky in colour. Would really be worth it.

paul

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xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2010 - 4:49 PM

Thank you Frank, I take your point, maybe this is not a good one for silhouette.
Thank you Stephen for telling me what silhouette is...I don't have much ideas about it.When I took the photo,I saw the simple shape against the moody sky...
Thank you Paul, the reason I saw this as a silhouette,because I've been unconciously influenced by your work.I don't have any idea of silhouette, but I think that yours are superb.It was your "Heading home" popped in my mind.Simply line, strong and powerful, mine is weak and messyGrin,thank you so much for telling me how to do it....
Thank you all again.
xiaoli

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Eviscera e2 Member 81102 forum postsEviscera vcard United Kingdom149 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2010 - 6:00 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

It is rather "Lost" xiaoli.

Not sure if this is about the bird or the lines or the trees , its very "busy"

Not sure if you could have zoomed in to capture just the bird on the signs or waited for it to fly off and concentrate on the signpost.

Either way , the left signpost touching the bushes was always going to spoil the composition. One to try a new p.o.v maybe !

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xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2010 - 6:48 PM

Ah... thank you Dave,I gave it a crop, is it better?
I am not sure about the composition. I'd like to have your advices.
Thank you again.
xiaoli

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pamelajean Critique Team 8754 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1587 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2010 - 6:54 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Well, Xiaoli, I like it. I think you really wanted this to be a silhouette, especially after seeing your own modifications. I have taken one of them, used curves to strengthen the silhouette, then cloned some bits of cloud into the bright white sky area, and gave it some colour (2 mods). Go to Adjust>Hue and Saturation>Colorize and play with the sliders.
Pamela.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom845 Constructive Critique Points
16 Aug 2010 - 7:49 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Thanksd for the message - I've just done a mod myself - something I don't normally have time to do, but as we have talked - here it is - a real sky.

I increased contrast to pure B&W - selected all that was black, copied it, then pasted it onto a stock image of a real sky. Only time to defringe, but should give you the idea.

All the best,

Paul

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pamelajean Critique Team 8754 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1587 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2010 - 1:38 PM

An excellent idea of Paul's and the mods look amazing.
Your mod is very good, too, Xiaoli.
You have learnt something else today.

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xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2010 - 8:32 PM

Thank Pamela, thank you Paul,thank everybody for your kind help, MODs and excellent ideas.I'm really very happy indeed,from not knowing what silhouette was to manage to make up one,it's all down to your kind help.I appreciate it very much.
Thank you all again.
xiaoli

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Brilane
Brilane e2 Member 8Brilane vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
18 Aug 2010 - 9:04 PM

I think that you have hit the spot with the picture and the title. The composition is excellent, the lonely, (lost), bird sitting on the signpost, and the signpost, itself, in silhouette, giving the the observer the impression of being lost and not being able to find, (see), their way.
I think that this picture is a perfect example of a picture with a 'meaning'.
Brian

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PauloNascimentoPhotography

Great composition and loved the modifications so far, well done Xiaoli !
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