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This is the third time i upload manggoes image. This time i intend to get the depth feelling of the manggoes where in my second upload can not get that feeling. Thank you for Dave Sumner and Nick (Sooty_1) for the comment on my manggoes image before.

I choose fast shuuter speed 1/200 to freeze the movement because of the wind. so i can't controlled the aperture. And i just found adding saturation can give more bright to the manggoes where on my second and first manggoes image i do not know.

Brand:FUJIFILM
Camera:Fujifilm FinePix S2950HD
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:12 Sep 2012 - 4:48 PM
Focal Length:14.6mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.1
Aperture:f/4.4
Shutter Speed:1/200sec
Exposure Comp:-2.0
ISO:250
Exposure Mode:Shutter speed priority AE
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:On, Fired
White Balance:Auto
Title:Manggoes 3
Username:arhab arhab
Uploaded:17 Sep 2012 - 10:45 AM
Tags:Flowers & plants, Fruit, Manggoes
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Chinga
Chinga e2 Member 3Chinga vcard United Kingdom
17 Sep 2012 - 12:09 PM

Looks like a good crop! IB

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pamelajean Critique Team 8748 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1575 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2012 - 6:15 PM

Out of the three mango images you have uploaded, Muhamad, this is the best, and it looks as if you have taken on board the comments on the other two and have tried to improve, and I applaud you for that.
In your first try, Dave said, "you need to somehow improve the light on the subject" and I notice from your Exif data that you used your flash this time, and it has worked beautifully to lighten one side and give the "modelling, texture and shadows" that Nick said were lacking on your second try. He suggested that you tried lighting from the side, and you have successfully achieved that.
Dave suggested that you tried to improve the background, and you have managed to get most of it dark, so that's good.
He also said to get the whole of the mango inside the frame, and you've done that, too.
Nick said to "make sure the subjects are perfect specimens" and you've definitely achieved this here.
Your image is still a bit soft, and I wonder if you are sharpening after resizing for the site?
I have done a modification where I made the whole of the background black, adjusted Levels, and cropped.
It is gratifying to see someone heeding advice and acting upon it, well done.
Pamela.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom840 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2012 - 10:28 AM

A perfectly reasonable image of a mango. It does need to be a bit sharper but this might be processing. Flash should help get the image sharp along with the relatively fast shutter speed.

The lighting is a bit confusing as the shadow suggest a light source to the right, the principle light source at that? Your flash is camera mounted unless you used a slave fired unit.


Paul

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arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2012 - 12:39 PM

thank you chinga, pam, paul. the light on the right of manggoes is from the sun, while the left part of manggoes is under the shades. as suggestion from nick, i tried to make the light better with adding aditional source light from the sun with internal flash. i had the image with the sun light only, i will upload next time to compare.

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41173 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2012 - 6:03 PM

You may have misunderstood me - I didn't mean add another source of light in addition to your Camera's flash, I meant try to make the main light come from a different direction other than straight head on.

On-camera flash generally gives flat, shadowless, uninteresting lighting (all the shadow is behind the subject where the camera can't see it, so by moving the light round to the side allows light and shadow to be seen from the camera's position, making the subject 3-dimensional and less like a cardboard cut-out).

My suggestion was that if you have no flashgun you can remove from the camera and move independently, use another source of light instead of the flash...eg a torch or a lamp. Try moving one round your subject and see how the light and shade changes the appearance.

This shot, you have got the balance much better (by accident or design..?) and the fruit looks solid and better lit. I still don't like the stem hanging in front of the mango, but at least it looks real now. You are now on your way to vastly improving your use of light and shadow over the front-flash auto-everything shots you started with.

Nick

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arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 12:19 AM

i tried without the flash, only use sun as source of light but the result given different mood. so i use the flash too. i tried to design the light from the sun only lighting part of manggoes and not full. and about the hanging stem, i am thinking the stem is part of manggoes so i do not remove it. i will upload the image with the sun only

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