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A couple of months ago, I posted something from the car park at Sutro Baths, the now-derelict swimming pool complex on the Pacific coast in San Francisco. I think these are the stumps of the wall that faced the ocean, slowly rusting away. Taking these shots rather bemused a passer-by who thought I must have been photographing some small animal or something.

There are two versions: different sections of the same wall. Now that I come to post them, I see that #1 is a little over-sharpened, which I'll fix when I get the chance.

All comments and criticism welcome.

Dave.

Sunday, 29th November, 2009.
183mm, f/5.6, 1/500s, ISO-100.

Camera:Canon EOS 400D
Lens:Canon 70-200mm f/4 L IS
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Mini Mountains
Username:DRicherby DRicherby
Uploaded:24 Feb 2010 - 12:21 PM
Tags:Black & white, Close-up / macro, Landscape / travel
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clicknimagine
24 Feb 2010 - 12:38 PM

fantastic tones here, lovely shot...

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Shroomer
Shroomer  7 England167 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2010 - 12:59 PM

Great eye to see these.
Richard

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bliba
bliba  9 Austria2 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2010 - 1:41 PM

very effective...well seen and executed.....TOP close up WORK

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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 6barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2010 - 1:46 PM

Mono works well here

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Vincent_Chapman

V1 is the best I really really love this very well thought out and i hope it gets loads and loads of vote come on guys!!!

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baclark
baclark  53740 forum posts United Kingdom24 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2010 - 3:59 PM

V1 for me looks like an alien landscape, super detail.
Barbara

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PhotoKaren
24 Feb 2010 - 6:17 PM

Like v1. Make me look twice as at first glance it looks like a rock formation in the desert.

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WindowonWildlife
WindowonWildlife e2 Member 5WindowonWildlife vcard United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2010 - 7:33 PM

Two terrific images and great mono's

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gingerdelight
24 Feb 2010 - 7:53 PM

Effective, and very well composed images.
Carol

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riprap007
riprap007  101568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2010 - 11:03 PM

beautifully monumental

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morpheus1955
25 Feb 2010 - 12:00 AM

Lovely mono shot.

Hugh

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EAS  5 Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2010 - 12:03 AM


Quote: V1 for me looks like an alien landscape, super detail.
Barbara

Ditto! You really captured superb texture.

Ann

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tigertimb
tigertimb  740 forum posts United Kingdom66 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2010 - 1:31 AM

Love this idea David, with creative use of the spikes on the wall.
#2 not quite working for me with that light rectangle in the background stealing the illusion.
But I really like #1 with the background working well with great DOF. Over-sharpened as you say with the white halo and I think it would help with a touch more space at the top and maybe a little less at the bottom to remove some of the solid black and the 'wall feel'; but minor factors for me
Tim

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Lillian
Lillian e2 Member 5Lillian vcard United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2010 - 8:25 PM

had to keep looking at it, as most unusual, you have a lot of detail prefer V1 but with some of the botton off as it seems to be blurred on left side, but it is amazing and there probably was a small creature there somewhere.
Lillian

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teocali e2 Member 6261 forum poststeocali vcard England18 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2010 - 9:48 PM

Fascinating write-up Dave and very well spotted. You seem always to have a knack of seeing and capturing unusual and original subjects, which would just not register with the majority of people.
Great textures and detail and working so well in mono.
I see that this is macro work, but what sort of scale roughly would these "stumps" be? Could they be remnants of the wall's reinforcement rods?
Sylvia

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DRicherby  6269 forum posts United Kingdom725 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2010 - 1:16 AM

Thanks, Sylvia. Smile

They're not conventional rebar but I'm not really sure what they were for. They're about an inch and a half, maybe two inches square in cross-section, as I recall. Not really macro work but `close up' seems to fit.

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cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2010 - 12:01 PM

intrigued by the thumb. defo v1 much tidier comp, and doesnt look over sharp to my inexperienced eye at least.lesley

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tigertimb  740 forum posts United Kingdom66 Constructive Critique Points
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Quote: doesnt look over sharp to my inexperienced eye at least

Hope Dave doesn't mind as he was the first to point out the over-sharpening, but If you are interested, look down the right hand edge of the highest peak. You'll see a thin white line which the sharpening has added, which are often referred to as halos. Can be caused by either over-sharpening, or by an over aggresive resizing method - i.e. photoshop has a bicubic-sharper and a bicubic-smoother etc and PSPX2 has a percentage sharpening to apply when doing its bicubic scaling. Keep a particular eye out for high contrast edges and adjust the method used if you spot these extra white or black lines occuring.

Tim

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DRicherby  6269 forum posts United Kingdom725 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2010 - 2:22 PM

Thanks, Tim you saved me a bit of typing, there. Grin Thanks also for mentioning the square thing in #2. I'll have a go at making that less prominent.

I think that saving as a JPEG can also introduce haloes like that. I've not investigated it but, from knowledge of how both JPEG compression and sharpening works, both should be able to produce that sort of artifact. I processed the image a little while ago so I don't remember exactly, but I'm sure I'd have noticed those haloes if I'd produced them in editing. After all, I spend enough time pointing out other people's sharpening haloes!

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27 Feb 2010 - 5:49 PM

Two excellent captures.
Christine

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Ayelet_A  6 Israel3 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2010 - 11:09 PM

Wonderful mono work Dave, excellent use of dof and angles.

Ayelet

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paulcr  101536 forum posts Ireland9 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2010 - 11:28 PM

Click for lookng at the subject from a totally different angle. Paul

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davey_griffo
28 Feb 2010 - 12:27 PM

Do you know, I wouldn't have noticed that if Tim hadn't pointed it out. Maybe it's more noticable on the full size image.

Looks great to me. Another of your unusual & thought provoking abstracts.

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FeatherFriend e2 Member 732 forum postsFeatherFriend vcard England217 Constructive Critique Points
28 Feb 2010 - 9:22 PM

Sharp with fine detail where it needs to be David, re the 'halos', I also find that using shadows and highlights has a similar effect too Wink
Geoff.

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maratsuikka
3 Mar 2010 - 6:11 AM

well,well shooted TeamMan

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proz  10205 forum posts United States
19 Mar 2010 - 2:16 PM

excellent

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CaroleA
CaroleA  8 England3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Mar 2010 - 5:59 PM

Not much I can add except to say I really like the presentation of these two images - such a simple understated frame really brings out the tones in these interesting shots.

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jonrayner  7 United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
2 Apr 2010 - 9:11 PM

Even with the oversharpening, I prefer number one, at first glance I thought it had that tilt and shift look about it. It is an amazing shot. Version 2, although very good, I found a little too dark in the bottom right.
Jon

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Bigtoe
Bigtoe  6 United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
4 Apr 2010 - 7:58 PM

Excellent, very powerful. I couldn't work out the scale without reading your description. V1 for me, it's more of a puzzle. Well spotted, Tony.

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maggie9  645 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
7 Apr 2010 - 8:25 AM

what a strange little world...
fantastic to spot these and turn it into mini-scenery

maggie

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Animalsmagic
11 Apr 2010 - 5:55 PM

Like an alien world, like V2 for the composition and tone
Mark

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NobbytheNobster
11 Apr 2010 - 10:18 PM

Very interesting shot, when i first looked at this i thought it was real mountains!
Well taken shot.
Ricky.

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astyag
astyag  712 Constructive Critique Points
14 Apr 2010 - 9:52 PM

Such a great landscape, excellent view, well done with POV
Astyag

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Ridgeway
Ridgeway  8222 forum posts Ireland2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Apr 2010 - 12:56 PM

Hiya Dave,

I did think these were broken pieces of metal spikes,,ones you might find on an old wall.Love the pov,tones and textures,,you sure it's not rusted metal,,

Aidan,,

Ps thank for the comments on my mushrooms,nice insight from one who knows,,

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kbtimages  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
14 May 2010 - 7:41 PM

Outstanding vision amazing clarity and composition plus dof.

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