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Mono Lake, California on a cold May morning.

After color balancing in PS there was still a bit of blue overcast. An orange filter was applied at 9% to balance colors a bit more.
Sharpening of 100% was applied but I'm thinking it may not be quite enough.

I am looking for comments on the overall quality of the photo and any specific adjustments someone else might see that I don't.

Thanks,
Gene

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D90 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:17.0-35.0 mm f/2.8
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:16 May 2011 - 9:05 PM
Focal Length:17mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/18.0
Shutter Speed:1/4sec
Exposure Comp:-1.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:As Shot
Title:Mono
Username:genebalun genebalun
Uploaded:17 Dec 2012 - 6:27 PM
Tags:Landscape / travel
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rontear
rontear e2 Member 11rontear vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
17 Dec 2012 - 6:32 PM

So raw is this landscape,,, captured with a sense of feeling Gene.
Ron.

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gajewski
gajewski e2 Member 10gajewski vcard United States9 Constructive Critique Points
17 Dec 2012 - 7:26 PM

Gene, this has to be the best shot of Mono Lake I've ever seen. I'm glad you included the info about your post-processing. It definitely paid off.
Seeing this reminds me that I need to get back to Mono Lake again. It is one of the most fascinating geologic formations around.
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Paintman e2 Member 8876 forum postsPaintman vcard United Kingdom173 Constructive Critique Points
17 Dec 2012 - 8:29 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

If you want to get rid of the cyan colour then use a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer and change the Hue of the cyan and blues, pushing the slider towards the darker blue or crimson end. This changes the blues from a greenish blue towards a violet blue.

I think the photo at this size is over-sharpened and halos can be seen in the main rock formations. It looks like you've selectively sharpened the photo so the clouds and parts of the water remain 'soft' whilst the rocks have received the bulk of the sharpening. If you use a mask and a soft brush you could reduce the sharpening around the edges of the rocks, leaving the main sharpening for the inside areas of the rocks. Sharpening increases the apparent contrast between edges but, because the edges of the rock against the sky already have contrast there's no need to give these edges the full amount of sharpening imo. All that'll happen is an increase in edge halos.

I tried, in the mod, to bring out more colour information, warming the rocks and cooling the water and sky. This was done by changing the mode from RGB to LAB and tweaking the colour. Make sure you change back to RGB mode when the colour tweaking has finished.

I reduced the effect of the sharpening, in this case, by using the reduce noise filter and a mask. The mask was used to keep the detail in the centre of the rock formations.

I do like the photo and the landscape, so the mod is just to play around with producing a warmer, coloured version.

Alan.

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accipiter
accipiter e2 Member 5accipiter vcard England57 Constructive Critique Points
17 Dec 2012 - 8:37 PM

An excellent image - personally I don't mind the cool color here but it does seem a tad over sharpened. a

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 2124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
17 Dec 2012 - 9:40 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Overall I think the quality of your shot is excellent as well as the composition. If you find a shot has a colour cast what I do is similar to the advice from Alan. I have uploaded a mod where I adjusted the hue to remove the cast and balance the colour to a level that looked ok then I selected cyan in the drop menu and used saturation to reduce the level of cyan overall.
My Mod is less vibrant then Alan's but I feel from your shot this is similar to the effect you were trying to achieve.

Ultimately the best results will be achieved by adjusting a raw image.

As for sharpening I never take this to 100% as for me it can begin to look strange and unnatural to the eyes, if you have your original focus set and a good f-stop for depth of field (f/11 -f/16) you should only need to tweak your sharpening.

Eric Grin

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10933 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2942 Constructive Critique Points
18 Dec 2012 - 3:21 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

A lovely panorama Gene.

Im not so sure that a cooler tone was wrong for this. Any colour correction I do always results in your filter being removed, and that includes using Adobe Raw. So, from a purely Photoshop/technical perspective, I have to conclude a cool tone is accurate. However, from your personal perspective, you might have wanted a warmer look. This is much better accomplished by going back to your original RAW file, and increase colour temp there; adding a filter is not the way to attempt this.

You have advice to correct colour casts, which will work, but the colour Balance tool is the right way to do this. Its shows three sets of sliders, where red is the opposite of cyan; green is the opposite of magenta; and yellow is the opposite of blue. So you use the opposite colour to cancel the cast. To correct Cyan, slide the slider towards its opposite, which is red. Now this is all very subjective. Its in RAW where your solution is best carried out, not in Jpeg.

Sharpening, - you mentioned 100%, - using which method? And what were radius and threshold set to? The rocks do look a little over sharp. but as Alan says, its a small compression of the original, and that might cause it to appear over sharp. Again, its in RAW where you should start with sharpening, and only apply sharpening in jpeg when you re size the jpeg which compresses the file size.

Ill check back later to see if you have provided sharpening information, and meanwhile, Ive uploaded my mod.



regards


Willie

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paulbroad
paulbroad  782 forum posts United Kingdom872 Constructive Critique Points
18 Dec 2012 - 5:45 PM

My guess is that the colour is about right. I don't register a cast that matters here. Very nice bit of pictorialism. I would just leave it as is.

Paul

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genebalun
genebalun  2 United States
19 Dec 2012 - 1:55 PM

Wow, a lot of great information here! So many ways to skin a cat, if you will. Thanks to everyone who offered such great advice!

After hearing the different approaches to adjusting color cast, it appears color cast, after an initial adjustment, is in large part, subjective.

Willie, in reference to your question about sharpening. First, I always work with RAW files. Second, when processing, I normally have a large print in mind with screen sharpening as a secondary objective. And finally the pixel radius is 1.8 with Remove Gaussian Blur selected.

Thanks to everyone once again. Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Gene

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10933 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2942 Constructive Critique Points
19 Dec 2012 - 2:00 PM

Gene, i would suggest a radius of a maximum of 1, and remove Lens Blur for best results.



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genebalun
genebalun  2 United States
19 Dec 2012 - 2:01 PM

Thank you, Willie. I'll try it.

Gene

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