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Old ships abandoned in the bay of Montevideo city, forgotten by men and time...

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D5100 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:11 Mar 2016 - 5:05 PM
Focal Length:18mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.6
Aperture:f/8.0
Shutter Speed:1/250sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Not Defined
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Manual
Title:Oblivion
Username:Gothic Gothic
Uploaded:15 Mar 2014 - 1:40 AM
Tags:Abandoned, Beach, Boat, General, Landscape / travel, Ship, Transport
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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10849 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2840 Constructive Critique Points
15 Mar 2014 - 2:01 AM

Its a great subject and a nice scene.

There does appear to be evidence here of some post processing work. There is a light "halo" around the ship that is a result of either darkening the background, or lightening the ship. Its should be done very carefully so that there is no visible evidence of this processing. I dont know how it was done, but zooming in close, and being careful will help.

If you have an original, unedited version, it would be nice to compare, and perhaps we can be more helpful too. You can upload it right here, just click the modifications tab, then Upload Modification, and select the original image, - re sized as needed.

With an image that includes a large expanse of sky like this, it can often result in an underexposed image, as the bright sky influences the metering; so it is often best to use exposure compensation of about +2/3; or, use exposure bracketing.

I will check back to see if it was possible to load the original.

Regards


Willie

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atenytom
atenytom  4 Greece
15 Mar 2014 - 6:39 AM

I like the scenery and climate

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dudler
dudler Critique Team 1197 forum postsdudler vcard England292 Constructive Critique Points
15 Mar 2014 - 8:51 AM

Thank you for uploading the original. It's really helpful.

And the original is much gentler than the posted version: I can quite see that you might have wanted to add drama by upping the contrast. It's also quite dark, which makes it seem a bit drab.

Also, on lightening the shot in Elements, I notice a distinct tilt to the horizon. It was a little concealed by the contrast as posted, and the dimness in the original.

Correcting the overall contrast range and the tilt are simple enough, as is burning in the clouds (which are lovely) a little bit. As a bit of a darkroom dinosaur, I'm less sure how to get the ship significantly lighter, without making it look artificial. Your processing succeeded, but something was set quite aggressively, and (in my view) oversharpened it, giving all those edge effects. (There are some signs in the mast and rigging, as well as round the outline.)

By the way, it would be worth having had more foreground - the reflection of the ship looks interesting, and could have been a strong compositional element.

I am at a loss to sort the darkness of the ship, so I won't post a mod for now - see if inspiration strikes - or, maybe, Willie will post a mod, and explain exactly what's needed...

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Mike43
Mike43 e2 Member 3Mike43 vcard England13 Constructive Critique Points
15 Mar 2014 - 8:55 AM

Great subject nicely seen, felt it had a torch to much space around the ship, and the sharpness was a little to hard, have uploaded a mod with a small crop and a little blur just to soften the image around the ship, also a play with levels on the ships white paint.

So I would say it has the potential for a great image with a little additional editing. have you thought about mono conversion??
Mike.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom850 Constructive Critique Points
15 Mar 2014 - 3:07 PM

Good subject but your original is a long way under exposed probably due to the bright sky and auto. In recovering, you have increased contrastca bit too much making the processing rather obvious. It lacks a batural feel. A bit of excess contrast suites, but there is too much here.

Paul

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10849 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2840 Constructive Critique Points
15 Mar 2014 - 3:13 PM

Thanks for uploading the original, its really helpful.

It does look as I suggested, underexposed due to the influence of the sky. I did upload a screenshot from Photoshop showing the histogram of the original image, and its showing a 1.5 stop underexposure. So in general, in similar circumstances, use an exposure compensation of +1, and then check the histogram when looking at the image playback.

I uploaded mod with the additional exposure, and cropped some space from the top. Also corrected a slight tilt as John mentioned. With a little more work, you can make the sky more dramatic, something like Mike has done.


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Willie

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Gothic
Gothic  4 Uruguay
15 Mar 2014 - 8:49 PM

Well, I'm absolutely astonished by the quality of your comments. I actually thank you very much for them and for taking your time to step by and have a word or uploading a mod of my picture. I also appreciate very much your technical analysis and critics as they are very helpful to improve my work.
My first idea when I saw this image in my mind was to create an HDR with it but I finally decided not to do so and just used the software mentioned above, Lightroom 3.6 and the basic but useful Photoscape (which should have been causing the hallo mentioned too).
I was aware of the underexposure of the original image so I tried to compensate it with the software as you say.
In spite of the difficulties due to a not very good original image I tried to do my best, and to be honest I was quite satisfied with the results, but I must admit that your opinions, suggestions and modifications are much better than what I did.
Thank you and best wishes.

Vendel.

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