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I have struggled to achieve successful HDR images, and have avoided HDR because I was not convinced it was for me. However, I felt this vase of dying roses offered a good subject to practise with. I am still not sure but would welcome feedback from those of you more practised at the art of HDR.
Thanks!

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D200 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:27 Jan 2013 - 4:16 PM
Focal Length:40mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.3
Aperture:f/14.0
Shutter Speed:1.6sec
Exposure Comp:+2/3
ISO:500
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Manual
Title:Pathos
Username:Ingleman Ingleman
Uploaded:28 Jan 2013 - 7:45 PM
Tags:Daylight, Flowers, Flowers & plants, Hdr, Nikon 18-55, Nikon d200, Roses, Still life
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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jan 2013 - 8:20 PM

A good picture which captures that feeling and atmosphere dying flowers give. Dead flowers do however have a limited appeal to most people.
I don't see much in the way of HDR here and would not have thought it necessary for this subject. I'll be interested to see what others comment.
I would rather see the background as pure black.
Looks good otherwise.
Ian

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Ingleman
Ingleman  74 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jan 2013 - 9:46 PM

Cheers Ian. Thanks for commenting. The background was pure black. Unsure why it has turned blue. Probably because I am using available light which has a blue cast and the material had a slight reflective sheen?

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10868 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2867 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2013 - 12:50 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Its a decent shot Andrew, but not one that would benefit from HDR.


Ive uploaded a mod that has likely removed any HDR effects, and it looks better. Added a little space to the right to place the vase off centre.

HDR is intended for shooting a scene where the dynamic range required to capture it is beyond the 5 stop range a digital camera has. So its the scene that has the High Dynamic Range. It requires a number of shots, 7 +, at different exposures, to capture every nuance of dark to light, - so detail in darkness is visible, and light is never overblown. These image are then used to compose an HDR image, which is a 32 bit image. This cannot be displayed at 32 bits on 8 and 16 bit devices like screens and printers, so a Tone mapping program is needed to map the tones in the HDR image to a viewable image.

Its a nice shot either way.



regards


Willie

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Hermanus
Hermanus  2 South Africa
29 Jan 2013 - 4:46 AM

Beautiful !Grin

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2013 - 9:51 AM

I don't know why you attempetd HDR here, it is just not a suitable subject.

Ian is corerct for me in as much as dying flowers don't attract a great deal of avid viewers and so maybe the dull appearance is aposite. I do prefer however, to see bright blooming flower heads in all their glory with deep colours, maybe next time eh?

Given your EXIF perhaps some lighting to help the colours wouldn't go amiss either. Usually I would expect to see the samllest aperture here at f8 (assuming a distant backdrop) with perhaps f5.6 being favourite to throw the background out of focus.

Frank

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Ingleman
Ingleman  74 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2013 - 7:49 PM

Hi all...many thanks for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated. It wasn't really intended to be a wonderful image of flowers. In fact the purpose of the shot was to capture the poignancy of the dying and faded flowers, as well as using HDR to record detail in the deep shadow of the flower heads and the hotspots in the brighter yellow petals. It was a practise shot and I was pleased with the amount of detail that was retained as opposed to the detail that was visible in a single exposure. My understanding was that that was the purpose of HDR? I appreciate dying stuff doesn't have the wow factor of a dazzling and colourful palette, but I believe there is a place for subtlety and less vivid colours in an image. I will try again with a different subject, because I sense there is a world of intrigue in this medium. But I do not like the gaudy over-processed look of a lot of HDR imagery that seems to be 'fashionable' at the moment. Thanks for your helpful feedback. Andy

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paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom853 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2013 - 8:46 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

HDR compresses tones. With a set piece like this I would try and get the lighting right. I RARELY LIKE HDR and the result here is a rather heavy image. I appreciate this is possibly what you were after but does it work? The jury is out, but I would use HDR only when absolutely necessary, not when you are in full control.

Paul

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