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The Pin Mill at Bodnant Gardens in North Wales. This is a National Trust property and has wonderful gardens that are well worth a visit.

Brand:Nikon CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D90 Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:3 Jul 2010 - 1:47 PM
Focal Length:24mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/11.0
Shutter Speed:1/250sec
Exposure Comp:-2.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
Title:Pin Mill, Bodnant Gardens, North Wales
Username:chrismonks chrismonks
Uploaded:27 Apr 2011 - 5:10 PM
Tags:Architecture, Landscape / travel
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James_C
James_C  536 forum posts United Kingdom56 Constructive Critique Points
27 Apr 2011 - 6:19 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

They look lovely and you have a nice photograph. The fact that it is ratrher dark is not a problem as your whites in the clouds are not blown out. I have done a mod, in which I used GIMP for all the mods. The work flow was as follows:
Colour select (set at 15) on the whitest part of the clouds.
Curves - reduced the high end from 255:255 to 255:200 then select none
Levels - lightened to 1.45
Curves - adjusted curve to 0:0 113:149 255:249
Levels again - lightened to 1.07
Curves - to 0:0 50:37 205:215 255:254
As the colours had become a bit weak I used Hue and Saturation to tweek them - +4 on Master and -4 on Cyan
Quick sharpen - +8
Check over and final tweek of curves - 0:0 58:46 209:209 255:253

Sorry - first mod uploaded by mistake as forgot to saveSad Second mod is the right one Smile

I hope you like it.

James

Last Modified By James_C at 27 Apr 2011 - 6:24 PM

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dynexclick
27 Apr 2011 - 6:41 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi there.
I do all my adjustments on layers as not to harm the orignal.
First thing I'd recommend is using the crop tool to correct the verticals, feels like you have a short leg.
Then create 2 adjustments layers for saturation and colour balance. The picture needs warming up and colour bringing out of the flowers.
Possilbly an axtra layer for brightness/contrast to whiten the building a tad more. You can always use the ereaser tool over the adjustment layer to mask out the effect on other parts of the image.
Hope that helps
Stu.

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chrismonks
chrismonks e2 Member 4chrismonks vcard United Kingdom
27 Apr 2011 - 7:07 PM

Thanks Gents. I was pleased about the clouds but, alas, my Photoshop skills are only just passed clicking on the Auto button in Guided Edit. Practise needed methinks!

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pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1579 Constructive Critique Points
27 Apr 2011 - 9:35 PM

Hello, Chris. The first thing I noticed was that the front of the pond was not straight. Apart from that, I think you have done well to get some nice perspective and symmetry here, and I really like the reflection in the water. A polarizing filter can help deepen your skies, and then you can simply just brighten the whole image without blowing out the white couds. I would personally have gone in closer for this shot, avoiding the front edge of the pond and having the water lilies as my foreground. I have a feeling that you would have been able to show the whole of the mill reflection by doing this, too.
Pamela.

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Jestertheclown
27 Apr 2011 - 10:51 PM

Hi Chris,

I've uploaded a mod. in which I've staightened things up and had a go at brightening it up.
I've increased the exposure by 0.6 after which the clouds, particularly the one on the left simply blow out. It doesn't show in the mod. but there is still (just about) some detail left in those clouds.
I also added some tweaks using the shadows/highlights tool which has released some detail that was hiding in the foliage. Finally, I increased the contrast by just a touch.
Unfortunately, any adjustments I made seem to make the sky look worse.
If this shot was mine and I was intending to keep or do something with it, I'd seriously consider replacing the sky. Find, or better still take, a shot of the sky with a lump of interesting cloud on the left though as it will be tricky to replace what can be seen through that tree.
Hope this helps.

Bren.

Edit; all done in CS5.

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 27 Apr 2011 - 10:52 PM

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James_C
James_C  536 forum posts United Kingdom56 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 8:44 AM

Hi Chris,
I'm interested in what has been said and done and there are a few things I would like to comment on. Firstly, with regard to Stu's (dynexclick) comment about working in layers. I'm sure his method, which I haven't used very often, is very good - preservation of the original is very important. Myt method of doing the same is to open the picture and immediately Save As filename_A and then work with that. The original is thus protected intact. Then as I work through the processing I save on a regular basis. I also Save Copy if I am experimenting with light balance or what ever so that I can compare the results without loosing either version. Personally I use Picasa as my main photo storage package, which means that I can switch across to view versions side by side.
Secondly, Bren (Jestertheclown) commented on the problem of blowing out the clouds. The reason I did my first operation of colour selecting the whitest part of the couds and then darkening them in curves was to avoid that problem. You will notice that I frequently dropped the top end when adjusting in curves and this was for the same purpose.
Thirdly I always leave a picture, usually 'till the following day, and then have a final look. A fresh eye often picks up things that a tired eye has missed. The most obvious thing when I looked at my mod this morning was that I had over lightened the picture so I would have given it a tweek in curves agin to correct this. Also, as pointed out by evrybody else, I would have straightened the picture, probably using the very easy to use tool in Picasa.
I hope all this helps.

All the best,

James

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Jestertheclown
28 Apr 2011 - 9:42 AM


Quote: I would have straightened the picture, probably using the very easy to use tool in Picasa.

My favourite straightening tool.
I've tried just about every free editor out there and have used Photoshop for some years but Picasa's straightening tool is still the one I come back to.

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