Login or Join Now

Upload your photos, chat, win prizes and much more

Username:
Password:
Remember Me

Can't Access your Account?

New to ePHOTOzine? Join ePHOTOzine for free!

Reflection

Join Now

Join ePHOTOzine, the friendliest photography community.

Upload photos, chat with photographers, win prizes and much more for free!

Add Comment

Shot taken again @ Cape Agulhas. feedback appreciated as always

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 7D
Lens:EF-S17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:9 Sep 2012 - 2:43 PM
Focal Length:17mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0
Aperture:f/4.0
Shutter Speed:1/2000sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:Reflection
Username:devlin devlin
Uploaded:23 Feb 2013 - 7:17 PM
Tags:General, Landscape / travel
VS Mode Rating 99 (25% won)
These stats show the percentage of wins and the rating score that your photo has achieved. You can go to the VS Mode by clicking on this icon.

Signup to e2

Signup to e2 to see which photo this has won or lost against in the vs mode
Votes:Voting Disabled
Critque wantedCritique Wanted
Has Modifications Modifications Welcome (Upload a Modification)
Awards have been disabled on this photo

Comments

This photo is here for critique. Please only comment constructively and with suggestions on how to improve it.
Trev_B
Trev_B e2 Member 7101 forum postsTrev_B vcard England63 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2013 - 7:32 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Prabh, I quite like the idea of he person sat looking out to sea, however there are some things that I would change. The thing that catches my eye is the waste bin and sacks of rubbish, you need to position yourself so that these are not in the frame. The horizon is central to the frame it would be better higher or lower in the frame. The colours do not look natural it seems to have a blue cast.

Trev

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

devlin
devlin  4651 forum posts India39 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2013 - 7:57 PM

thx Trev...i cant seem to see the cast....it looks ok on my screen.....are you referring to the color of the ocean ?? if yes then thats how it looks like at the Cape, it acquires a turquoise / bluish tinge due to the meeting of the Indian and Atlantic oceans..there....

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Jestertheclown
23 Feb 2013 - 8:18 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Prabh,

The first thing that I thought when I saw this was that you'd got carried away with the processing, notably because of the sea. Then I thought that the grass doesn't look overly saturated; well, perhaps slightly but it was the sea that was catching my attention.
Having read what you've said above, it all makes a lot more sense.
I can't see a blue cast either; the white bits look white on here. There's a lot of very strong blue in there though. Perhaps it's a trick of the light.
I suppose you could get rid of the bin and bags but these days, inspired by a certain Mr. McFade, unless there's a tree or a lamppost growing from someone's ear, I no longer clone things that were there when I took the shot.
The central horizon looks OK to me but you know my views on the so-called "rules."
I'd be more concerned about the speck of dirt directly above the right hand concrete bench end; just above the first and farthest, cloud formation.
Hope this helps.

Bren.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Trev_B
Trev_B e2 Member 7101 forum postsTrev_B vcard England63 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2013 - 8:45 PM

Maybe a blue cast is not the right way to describe the colour balance, which to me does not appear natural. Regarding the bin and bags, If I was hanging this picture on the wall the last thing that I would want to see is these in a prominent position. I agree the ROT does not have to apply, only in this case selecting a different POV to shift the horizon up or down would have moved it away from the end of his nose Wink.

Luckily everyone has a taste of their own WinkWink

Trev

Last Modified By Trev_B at 23 Feb 2013 - 8:47 PM

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2013 - 8:55 PM

Decent image. A touch over saturated for me and I would clone the rubbish. Once I see it, I keep seeing it. A blight on a nice scene. Just left McDonalds with grand kids. People next to us in car park dropped all there rubbish out the car window, then drove off. I would have them put down!

Paul

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 7394 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom965 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2013 - 9:17 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Crop a bit off the right side and we are looking towards the horizon with him, rather than at the rubbish bin. And that black dot has to go.
I agree that the blues look a bit garish but it may simply be that I am starved of light and colour at the moment!
Moira

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 7394 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom965 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2013 - 9:25 PM

A very quick Mod uploaded now - crop, a bit of cloning, got rid of the black spot, plus 10% desaturation. It just seems a bit more focused (visually) to my eye.

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41175 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2013 - 1:30 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

It's a nice idea, but there is too much in the frame, and tbh, the angle doesn't help. I'm not slavish about RoT either, but I think here you needed to be a touch closer to the bench, looking down slightly. This would eliminate the rubbish, cut out some sky by raising the horizon (occupying 50% of the shot is too much here) and move the man's head below the horizon. Cutting the horizon, as it does here, spoils the interaction between elements in the picture.
I'm not sure about the bush either, it is quite large but contributes nothing to the picture and also spoils the horizon line.
It would have been nice for the man to have had an unbroken horizon to gaze at, giving more impression of distance.

Settings-wise, I'd have stopped down, maybe to f/8 and 1/500 sec, to get more from the lens and eliminate any focussing errors.

Nick

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2794 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2013 - 5:38 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

There are a couple of issues. The white balance is too cool for a sunny day, and when corrected the apparent blueness, which has nothing to do with the sea, disappears; The current temperature is well below 5000K, and should by at least 5000k; the image is overexposed; the aperture is way too large to provide much in the way of apparent sharpness in depth. Once corrected, to me at least, the shot looks a lot better, and though Ive applied some sharpening, nothing past the man on the seat is sharp. As Nick mentioned, minimum f/8, I would use f/11, focus 1.3 the distance in, and not on the person, and you have loads of good light to maintain a fast shutter speed.
With this camera and f/4, your depth of field is limited to 43 feet. If you use f/8, its infinite. A huge difference for a small change.

The one problem with using black and white points to establish if a cast exists or not, is that it cant tell if a cast should exist, and in this case, it should, and it should be warmer by observation of the weather and existing light.

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html



regards


Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 24 Feb 2013 - 5:38 AM

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4209 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom128 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2013 - 11:44 AM

This is a picture of a man sitting on a bench looking at his sea view. Prabh has got it spot on with man's eyes just on the level of the horizon which is where they should be. (another rule to be broken Bren!) I've noticed with Prabh's images that he has the knack or perhaps training of good composition.
The question as to if the horizon should be on a third or half way as here is more down to what the photographer wishes to show.. Here an area of blue sky is included, to crop the sky to follow a 'rule' would change the image, it would become a totally cloudy day.
By removing the bush, bags and bins the picture would improved. What we don't know is why the photo was taken. Was the man a friend?, if so another bench. If intended as a sea scape foreground interest was poor, choose another camera position with less distractions.
My view good image but too many distractions.
Ian

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

devlin
devlin  4651 forum posts India39 Constructive Critique Points
24 Feb 2013 - 6:37 PM

Thx Ian, trained is probably more like it...Smile Willie can probably testify to the stuff I used to churn out in the early days Smile...I've learned a lot from him and others here ... Though still a long way to go as you may have observed Wink

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2794 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2013 - 5:32 AM

yes, this is Prabh V2.0!

Nominating Constructive Critique

Please ensure that you understand what is meant by Constructive Critique - see FAQ here. If you still wish to nominate this comment click Yes

- Original Poster Comments
- Your Posts

Add a Comment

You must be a member to leave a comment

Username:
Password:
Remember me:
Un-tick this box if you want to login each time you visit.