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OK, What am I doing wrong? Posted this one a few days ago and it got 1 vote an no comments. SO I've take the other one off and posting it here for critique along with a version or 2 of my own ( I bought the Kelby lightroom 3 book so I'm playingGrin).

Feel free to rip it to pieces as I'm confused ( the one I put on yesterday seems to be liked and I think it's crap compared to this (it's a different subject matter but I can see at least 4 faults with itGrin)

THis photography will send me grey ... ah, too late for the... make that greyer

Nick

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 30D
Lens:EF28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Focal Length:43mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.5
Aperture:f/10.0
Shutter Speed:1/320sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:500
Exposure Mode:Program AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:RIver Avon at Marcliff
Username:nicktg nicktg
Uploaded:29 Jul 2011 - 2:11 PM
Tags:Flowers & plants, General, Landscape / travel, Wildlife / nature
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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8755 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1589 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2011 - 7:20 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hello, Nick. Please don't make yourself any greyer.
The picture is of a river and trees with a bit of sky. It's quite pleasant with good colour and contrasts. I think the major problem is that there is nothing in particular to focus the viewer's attention upon. I can see a little boat moored by the reeds on the right bank, beneath the right dark circle. I can see a swan emerging from the dark area back left and moving across to the right. I can see a fisherman sitting on the right of the foreground bank, casting into the left of the picture. I can see one or two people sitting to the left on the foreground grass and gazing into the water. But none of these things are actually there. It would take a manipulation to put them there, but I might be tempted to do this because it's a very nice scene and is crying out for a focal point. A picture like this can also work well if the reflections are good, but I think that the overall green colour lets the reflections down because they are just adding more green and have turned all of the water green. If the water had been reflecting an attractive cloudy blue sky, it would bring in a different colour. You may have fet that the foreground flowers helped with a focal point but they are not large enough to be of benefit. If you had got in lower and closer to the flowers, finding just a few and getting them in good focus, this could have worked. I hope this has been of some help.
Pamela.

Last Modified By pamelajean at 29 Jul 2011 - 7:22 PM

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rambler e2 Member 6469 forum postsrambler vcard England14 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2011 - 7:43 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Nick,
from one greying snapper to another let me say this is a good shot.
However the sky does nothing to enhance it, crop it out. The trouble with taking pictures of 'empty' scenes is that the eye cannot settle one one point of interest. This makes it a little uncomfortable to view simply because our brains are programmed to find something. Have a go at putting something in under the trees, even if is only a white dot, and see the difference it makes.

The Mono version is much stronger thanks to the crop and the lighting adjustment.

oh and don't take too much notice of the judging, if you asked everyone who voted for your pics why they did so they would all give a different reason.

Ken.

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Jestertheclown
29 Jul 2011 - 10:22 PM

From another platinum silver photographer;
I've uploaded a mod. in which I've made some adjustments using (just) the colour balance tool as I think the original is far too green.
I didn't do anything with the sky. If this was an image I wanted to keep, I'd simply replace it.
Hope this helps.

Bren.

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nicktg
nicktg  6 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2011 - 8:27 AM

Thanks guys

I thought I was going doolally ( should use that word more I feel Grin)

@pamela,

As I've said many a time, I'm not one for a lot of processing so this has taken a lot of courage to do what I've done so far lol! I'll see if I can find a boat and 'shop' it in Grin

@Bren,

I like the mod and OK about the sky ... hmm this sounds like fun - I'll have to look in the book Grin

ANd finally @Ken,

wise advice Grin I also like the B&W conversion ... I used to shoot a lot of Black and White in my younger days, maybe I should go back to my roots as it were.


RIght off to do the shopping and then out with the camera I think

Nick the slightly grey Smile

Last Modified By nicktg at 30 Jul 2011 - 8:28 AM

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NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2011 - 10:22 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

hello,
firstly the clicking side, dont worry, people including me, click on shots that stand out for some reason, and to be fair, no matter how evocative of a lovely day you had, nor how competent the image is in the taking, there is little mood or subject matter to lift the thumb out from all the hundreds that get uploaded each day. put a sunset on and you will get more , trust me on that.

as an image, its hard to see what else you could get from the scene apart from a bit of considered framing to eliminate a distracting bit of sky.

there is mnothing wrong with the image but its pretty ordinary without a focal point and a lack of exciting light.

hope that helps without being too unkind which i dont wish be.
pHIL

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nicktg
nicktg  6 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2011 - 2:09 PM

Frank/Phil,

Thanks once again for the honest critique. I guess I thought the River itself would lead the eye in and around the bend but shows what I know Grin. Of out now to see if I can find inspiration nearer to home ... and get some shots of Dragonflies while I'm at it Grin

THanks again

Nick

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