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This was a double take moment - I was on my way to photograph another event when The sun setting the pier off against the dark sky caught my eye.

Five photos stitched together in Photoshop

Camera:Nikon D300 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:Nikon AF-S Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Focal Length:70
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.5
Aperture:f/8
Shutter Speed:1/250sec
Exposure Comp:-1.0
ISO:100
Title:Roker Pier Panorama
Username:PaulSwinney PaulSwinney
Uploaded:2 Jan 2013 - 8:50 PM
Tags:Black & white, Coast, Landscape / travel, Lighthouse, Panorama, Pier
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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
3 Jan 2013 - 8:16 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I find very little to critique in this image, except for maybe the fact that the horizon is midway between the center and lower third of the image. Possibly would have added a bit more sky up top to put the horizon on a third.

A second comment is that maybe the image could be slightly brighter even though the dark tones work well in portraying the background weather. Either way half a stop of more exposure would probably help and give a bit more shadow detail to the lighthouse itself.

I think the lead-in works really well walking us through the picture as if we're really on that pier. Well done!!

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom851 Constructive Critique Points
3 Jan 2013 - 10:16 AM

There is something wrong with the way the site is showing images. This looks very dark to me on the site, needing some brightening up as did the presented image to download. I downloaded to try adjustments in Photoshop and the download is much brighter and needs no work. My screen is calibrated, so I can only suspect the browser. I use 'Chrome', but don't normally see such a bad effect.

So, nice image, well seen.

Paul

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10868 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2867 Constructive Critique Points
3 Jan 2013 - 3:09 PM

The image looks different here than when opened in Photoshop because its an untagged b&w image. Photoshop performs no colour management, hence the image is displayed brighter. The image needs to be tagged with sRGB for both the browser and Photoshop to show the same. So not the site Paul (Broad)

Having said that, its a well executed image Paul S. Id like some more information on how it was done, - vertical or horizontal panning, and why not use 18MM before I could add useful comments.


regards



Willie

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3 Jan 2013 - 6:39 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Paul,

What a good eye you have! I've uploaded a version with adjusted contrast, to add drama to the long wall and more detail to lighthouse. Just a matter of personal taste.

Seamus

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PaulSwinney
3 Jan 2013 - 9:28 PM

Thanks very much everybody.

Willie - I panned vertically and I zoomed to 70mm in order to get the composition that I wanted. I could taken one photo at 18mm and cropped but I wanted a higher resolution.

Seamus - I like the constrast adjustment. I held off on doing it because I wanted the contrast between the bright wall and the dark sky, but I think pulling back some of the detail in the brickwork adds to the photo. Thank you.

Paul - is this something I'm doing wrong when uploading?

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4 Jan 2013 - 12:33 AM


Quote: There is something wrong with the way the site is showing images. This looks very dark to me on the site, needing some brightening up as did the presented image to download. I downloaded to try adjustments in Photoshop and the download is much brighter and needs no work. My screen is calibrated, so I can only suspect the browser. I use 'Chrome', but don't normally see such a bad effect.


Paul

Paul B
I've looked at this image in Chrome and compared it with Firefox. The Chrome image is definitely darker - more contrasty I think. (My screen is calibrated and my Firefox is pointed towards that profile; I don't know if Chrome can colour manage in this way).

Paul S
The more I look at this, the more I notice and the more I like - eg the catchlights on the near railings; the line of railings on the other side of the closed gates. These validate your multi-image route to greater detail. Did you use a tripod?

Seamus

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10868 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2867 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 3:26 AM

Seamus. Chrome performs no colour management. This is an UNTAGGED image, - so ONLY Firefox will handle it properly once you change the gfx_colour_management default setting from 2 to 1. This is why its important to tag ALL web images with sRGB, - even the mono shots.


Paul S, thanks for the information, - your done a very good job stitching. I will doenaload and take a closer look later.


Regards


Willie

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Seamuscamp
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4 Jan 2013 - 10:13 AM

Willie

Thanks for the info on Chrome. I had problems with Firefox itself until I found:

http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Seamus

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banehawi
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9 Jan 2013 - 4:45 PM

Yep, thats the setting I mentioned Seamus. Firefox is the king.


W

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9 Jan 2013 - 4:53 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I came back after your information Paul, and took a close look. It is a good job overall. It needs sharpening, - its a little soft. Remember after you re-size and save, you need to open the new image, and apply some sharpening to account for compression. Ive done this in the mod.

Ive also checked the horizon, and its needs a .46 CW rotation, - but that may just be a factor of the stitching. Its not a lot over such a long horizon.


Unfortunately the mods are all limited in size, so it makes it difficult to really see any differences in whats been done, - however the mod has been rotated and sharpened.

I like your technique, - it works very well.



Regards


Willie

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PaulSwinney
9 Jan 2013 - 8:52 PM

Thanks Willie. I always remove sharpening in the raw converter but then am a bit lazy in not sharpening them when uploading them. Good spot! I'll make sure to be less slack in the future...

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