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Entered this in a digital comp in camera club tonight...most thought a crop would be better taking the left hand side out...I can see what they meant but following some dicussion on my last upload I thought it worked to have a wider view - saying that I also entered the puffin giving a wider view and citique came back that i should have cropped it tighter...can't win eh. The puffin did get a 2nd place though so that was nice.

This was shot hand held through the kitchen window!

Camera:Canon EOS 50D
Lens:Canon 300mm L f4
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:Shades of Green
Username:Alan_Coles Alan_Coles
Uploaded:6 Nov 2010 - 12:05 AM
Tags:General, Wildlife / nature
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kazzy1963
6 Nov 2010 - 12:06 AM
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beautifully captured
karen

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cantona43
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6 Nov 2010 - 12:15 AM
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a beautiful shot I think he is fine as he is
Neil

RonnieAG
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6 Nov 2010 - 12:17 AM
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It is a beautiful shot: the bird is captured in fine detail and in very natural colours which sit well against the apple greens of the b/g. Difficult to know about the cropping......will be interested to see the views of others.
Ronnie.

sweetpea62
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6 Nov 2010 - 12:18 AM
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Lovely capture.well done.

LexEquine
6 Nov 2010 - 12:20 AM
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Great capture...LEx

hasslebladuk
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6 Nov 2010 - 12:29 AM
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Excellent shot
mike

NeilWigan
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6 Nov 2010 - 12:36 AM
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good capture and best of luck with the comp.

Ian-Munro
6 Nov 2010 - 12:40 AM
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For me Alan you have displayed this perfectly correct imo only.

Including the lighter side compliments this image and actually makes me think that you have thought about composition. I can tell you that the tighter crop doesn't always work. Just ask Andy Rouse who now includes habitat in his studies.

There is enough to the right of the bird not to worry about and also one can appreciate the environment that was there at the time.

My final say to some is to stop pixel peeping and fretting over what is and what isn't in photography and enjoy the subject matter in hand.

Its sharp, its exposed well and its compositionally good.

Constructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique!
JPatrickM
6 Nov 2010 - 12:55 AM
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You've broken the rule that says your bird should have more space in front of it than behind. Rules are made to be broken, and IMHO it's a silly "rule" anyway. This is a beautiful shot, lovely colour and detail, and well balanced.
Patrick

Great image with good detail in the plumage. To me they were right about the loss of the left side as i find the light area a eye puller
Regards Charles

This is a beautiful capture Al - And as for ' Rules ' they are only someone else's oppinion - I always say, do what you like and suits you !

Chris

Ian-Munro
6 Nov 2010 - 1:22 AM
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More power to you for including the extra space Al. For me it would be "just another shot" without the addage mate. You must realise that you will always get the same people saying the same rules over and over.

Then you must look at them and say "where are you now?"...........answer?......doing the same old same old thats a fact. Wink Its not all about CC's is it? Wink


ps, gotta go to get my slides ready pmsl. Wink

Last Modified By Ian-Munro at 6 Nov 2010 - 1:25 AM
jeb2012
6 Nov 2010 - 4:08 AM
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A excellent capture

accipiter
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6 Nov 2010 - 6:54 AM
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I would probably have cropped this 'square' - I find it easier to compose some bird shots that way and it would keep plenty of habitat. However having said that, this is an excellent capture whatever way you present it and I am all for the photographer making his/her own final choice of format. Good one. A

Morgs
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6 Nov 2010 - 9:06 AM
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The foliage actually adds to the image. It shows the bird in its natural habitat, and the fact that the green of the leaves compliments the green of the bird works well. Expertly done, particularly as you were shooting through glass.

Dave

Platchet
6 Nov 2010 - 11:38 AM
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I like this shot as it is, however.....I can see the argument for cropping too as the bright area is eye pulling.
We all have a different opinion when it comes to composition so we'll always differ. The reason you get people in CC's being so critical is because they know some judges will drop loads of points for a distraction in an image or poor composition, that said I've come accross some poxy judges too. You have to be pretty thick skinned if you put an image up in a club for critique as in a club battle it can be quite nerve racking when it goes up and you know there's a glaring fault.
Give me "could be cropped a little tight" any day to "just running and clicking".
Gazza

pluckyfilly
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6 Nov 2010 - 11:46 AM
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I can see both sides of the discussion, I to like a little foliage included but I still think the L.H. side could be cropped and you would still have foliage but lose some of the brighter parts, having said this - its a very good shot of the bird

Maiwand
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6 Nov 2010 - 1:39 PM
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I am a fan of including habitat wherever possible Alan so, IMO, the Greenfinch is just fine. An excellent shot.
Ron

cassiecat
6 Nov 2010 - 8:19 PM
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youve done well not to get any glare from the glass. you always get good detail in your birds. congrats on the puffin.lesley

Tynnwrlluniau
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6 Nov 2010 - 8:21 PM
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A beautifully sharp image. Excellent shot.

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