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I took the photo on Tuesday, quite liked what I saw.Smile
I wonder if the photo is too dark.If I brightened up, the shadow wouldn't look nice.And,I also wonder if I should keep or get rid of the flare.What else I can do to improve it?
This is nearly original photo.I did a bit tidy up,got rid of a lorry on the roadGrin
Settings:F8;S1/640;focal length 28mm ISO100;Aperture-Priority at -2 stop.
All comments,criticisms and MODs are welcome.Thank you.

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 50D
Focal Length:28mm
Aperture:f/8.0
Shutter Speed:1/640sec
Exposure Comp:-2.0
ISO:100
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:Shadow and green light
Username:xwang xwang
Uploaded:20 Jan 2011 - 5:28 PM
Tags:Fence, General, Landscape / travel, Lights, Shadow, Transport
Votes:Voting Disabled
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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom825 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2011 - 5:39 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

What I would do is crop the top and a little off the left to make the whole image from the shadow of the railings. Possibly just increase brightness a little but, as you say, too much and you loose the effect. Possibly lift contrast a touch too. Using -2 was the right way to go.

Paul

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Alvar
Alvar  7 France2 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2011 - 5:40 PM

I think it has worked out very well
Alvar

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xwang
xwang  431 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2011 - 6:06 PM

Thank you very much Paul. I learned Compensation from you.Grin
I just did a MOD. It looks brilliant, I like it,I cloned off the top of the lamp and cropped off a bit left. but I don't know why I can't upload it.Anybody can help,please?
Thank you Alvar, you haven't seen my new MOD yet, you will like it Smile
Jasmine

Last Modified By xwang at 20 Jan 2011 - 6:11 PM

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Jestertheclown
20 Jan 2011 - 9:44 PM

Hi xwang,

I like this a lot.

I've prepared a mod. of this in which I've tweaked it just a little but, like yourself, I can't upload it.

Bren.

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pdcche
pdcche  3 United Kingdom
20 Jan 2011 - 10:22 PM

I too agree with Paul, but still a nice image with the shadows.. Peter

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xwang
xwang  431 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2011 - 10:49 PM

Thank you Bren.
I did what Paul suggested, but my English is not very good, I didn't quite grasp what the exactly picture Paul meant. I increased the brightness and contrast, that helps a lot. I tried to keep the gate as a whole at first, I cloned off the top of the lamp and made it as part of the tree, and then I thought that maybe there was no need to keep the gate as a whole or it didn't matter.So I gave it a further crop.When I re-read Paul's commment.I cropped the whole top of the tree, by that means the top of the gate was cropped off more as well, but amazingly the gate looks better,it's more harmonic with the shadows.I still can't upload the MOD, so I have to write it, my English is not very good, you have to extend your imagination further.Grin
Thank you Paul againSmile
Jasmine

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xwang
xwang  431 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2011 - 10:50 PM

Thank you Peter.
Jasmine

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ccb  526 forum posts United States2 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2011 - 3:36 AM

I really like the green light, Jasmine - it stands out so and so do the red lights on the car. The rail shadows are great. And by the way, I uploaded a version of another picture and it might be there but I don't see any way to see it - no button to click on. It's all rather strange!
Christina

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Nikola
Nikola  3 India1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2011 - 8:12 AM

I am not too sure, but I feel that green light in this image could be your main subject; it has added a lot to the image. So if I were you, I would not touch it, but surely like Paul said cropping slightly towards the left and base would slightly centre your green light making it more significant and possibly that would be the main theme of your image. I could be wrong too Wink
Have a nice day Jasmine.
Regards Uttam

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Jestertheclown
21 Jan 2011 - 3:18 PM

In the same way that "Jestertheclown" is also "Bren"?

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 21 Jan 2011 - 3:19 PM

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xwang
xwang  431 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2011 - 6:21 PM

Ha,ha,...Frank,if you come to 'see' me more often you may know. Grin
Jasmine is the translation of "Li" as my name in Chinese."Xiao" is the pronunciation of dawn,little ...depends on which word you choose. But I found that "xiao" is difficult to pronunce for English speaker.So I started to use the translation rather than the sound in Chinese, as it's easier for people to remember. Have I made myself clear?SmileI answer bothWink
I am not sure "xwang" is Jasmine, as "Jestertheclown" is also "Bren"Grin.Wang was my surname, it should be "x.wang", that would be right in English.I have to use it, you may forgive my poor English thenWink

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Rock
Rock e2 Member 11Rock vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2011 - 6:22 PM

The shadow takes the eye up through the full frame.

Rock

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LexEquine
LexEquine  7 United States19 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2011 - 11:46 PM

Well-composed capture, Jasmine, with excellent use of 'the light play at the-time-of-the-day.' Your image also has excellent depth, color, & clarity. Well done.
Peter Smile

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Jestertheclown
22 Jan 2011 - 8:53 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi again xwang (Jasmine?),

I've finally uploaded the mod. I carried out the other night.

I haven't done anything spectacular with it. Just a crop from the top and LHS to bring the slanted top of the first pillar right into the corner, a slight tweak using shadows/highlights (hopefully, not too much) and a smidgeon more contrast. And I cloned the corner of the paving slab at the bottom as it was annoying me!
I think this could be one of those shots where we'll all see it differently and never agree on which version is the best.

Hope this is OK.

Bren.

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xwang
xwang  431 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2011 - 12:18 AM

Hi Bren,
Thank you very much for your MOD.It seemed that they put "M" back, that's why you (we) can upload MOD now.There was only "C" before.
I put my MOD on, the one that I asked you to imagine...Grin. I did a radical crop.Yours is more like the first crop I did.I thought of the image was dark(It's my problem, I always go to darker image)but I thought that if I brightened up, it would weaken the shadow and light.As you said:"...this could be one of those shots where we'll all see it differently and never agree on which version is the best." I agree.
Thank you again

Jasmine, xwang, xiaoli(whatever you likeWink

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DRicherby  5269 forum posts United Kingdom725 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jan 2011 - 12:41 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Interesting shot! The converging lines lead the eye right through the shot and the shadows make an excellent foreground. Well seen! This is also well exposed, with nothing blown out, even though the sky is in the shot. I think the crop of the mods is slightly better as it's a bit more focused. I also like the warmth of the second mod (sorry -- can't see who posted it, for some reason).

I have a small suggestion, which is to correct the apparent lean to the right. Because you've angled the camera downwards a little, the verticals diverge (lean outwards). This is the opposite of the familiar effect of them leaning in when you look upwards. You've aligned the shot with the wall on the left vertical, which has emphasized the lean on the right. There are two ways to fix this: either rotate anti-clockwise to balance the image by having everything lean outwards a little bit or make a perspective correction so nothing leans.

When you're aligning shots, either in the viewfinder or by rotating in software, it's best to use horizontals or verticals in the middle of the frame. A vertical through the centre of the frame will stay vertical however much you point the camera up or down and a horizontal through the centre will stay horizontal as you turn the camera left and right. This means that you can align your shot in the viewfinder by lining up a vertical in the centre of the frame and then panning to the side (but not altering the tilt) to get the composition you want.

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xwang
xwang  431 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
27 Jan 2011 - 6:47 PM

Thank you Dave,I uploaded a MOD for you to have a look. I wonder if I've understood what you said correctlly. Maybe I've over done itGrin. Vertical about -5 and horizontal -26.
I remembered that I had corrected the vertical, targeted on the wall.Maybe not very accurate.As you said, the original photo(without correction vertical),the gate wall leans to the left, the lamp post was neraly vertical.After the vertical correction, the lamp post leans to right.But when we look at a photo,visually, we prefer the wall is vertical rather than the lamp post, so, the wall should be vertical,I think.Smile
Thank you so much for your time and excellent technical discussion.I enjoy it immensely.
Jasmine

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Jacobite
Jacobite  738 forum posts United Kingdom
23 Feb 2011 - 4:41 PM

I feel that the subject matter calls out for a mono conversion. I do like the shadow, which leads you into the picture.

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