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The boring old question of skin treatment - I want to know your opinion please.
Some sites are very pro - skin smoothing treament - such as model mayhem, which I can understand a little as the models can be selling a product bla bla, but I personally prefer natural skin. Although I do like to play around in photoshop for that " magazine perfect skin appearance, its not my preference.
I frequently have both models and makeup artists requesting edits with smooth "porcelin" skin

So whats your preference and most importantly - why Wink

Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:skin treatment - the vote
Username:Angi_Wallace Angi_Wallace
Uploaded:22 Jul 2011 - 2:14 PM
Tags:Digitally manipulated, Flash / lighting, Portraits / people
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johnnyboy114
22 Jul 2011 - 3:39 PM

Yeah, I know your dilemma.....I also hate really photoshopped smoothed skin, but then there is a call for it, which is sadly the way of the world. I tend to like it a bit in between the photoshopped smooth and the completely "warts and all" skin....not overly smooth, but the main blotches and "defects" (that sounds so horrible) removed, or at least the effect subdued.....for me, it has to retain its detail and texture, yet not have the really unsightly scars, moles, spots, blackheads and so on....it can be done and I have seen many photographers pull it of perfectly....you just wouldn't know and put it down to the model having nigh on perfect skin. But its an art in both lighting and PS technique, the latter that is something that really eludes me at the moment.

Of the two pictures, I personally would lean more towards the picture on the right, with less retouching, but that is very much a personal taste. The pic on the left, especially in this context may well work better for the client and the brief, so....tough question. I also think the picture on the left, because of its nature, has less "depth" in it, the one on the right looking more "real".....so........I don't think there is a right or wrong answer with this couple of images....I think its very much down to the context of the image and what it will be used for, if anything. Good luck, I wouldn't want to make that choice! Wink

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BERTRAM
BERTRAM  6 United Kingdom
22 Jul 2011 - 3:40 PM

Fantastic work.
Dave

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Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman e2 Member 114484 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2011 - 5:02 PM

V2 looks more natural, but V1 would be the image that ended up in Vogue or such like, more the pity.....

Ade

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SurreyHillsMan
SurreyHillsMan e2 Member 627 forum postsSurreyHillsMan vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2011 - 5:26 PM

Hi Angi ... Yep depends on what the model or you want... V1 suites this shot well

I think somewhere in between for portraits for the wall, but for magazines glossies etc then the smoother look, however I really dont like that smooth effect on blokes... have you checked out Portrait Professional software website http://www.portraitprofessional.com/gallery/ it's hilarious, their before and after images are ridiculous especially completely getting rid of someones freckles and changing their face shape

Jon

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arhb
arhb e2 Member 72144 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom67 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2011 - 9:44 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Before I started doing any portrait/model photography, I was approached by a friend who knew I could use photoshop, asking me to retouch some images for her. I found a technique on youtube that used layers of gaussian blur and median noise to obliterate any skin texture, which could then have the layer opacity adjusted to show more or less 'smoothing' .
As a newly found technique I found this a lot of fun, and then discovered Port.Prof, which again found to be a great tool, especially given how well priced it is. Again, it can be used as a layer over the original, and either adjusted via opacity, or hidden and painted in where required, and used very subtly, it can produce some okay results.
It was over on modelmayhem that I started finding some very interesting forum discussions on retouching, that look to maintain skin texture, even for the glossiest of magazines.

A good retouch video
I discovered Natalia Taffarel on MM, and she has some great videos on youtube, showing in great depth how to retouch at a very high level.

That said, it is very labour intensive, but it has made me appreciate that done properly, retains a natural skin look and can make a good image look fantastic.
What I have found is that when a model from MM finds out you can retouch/ make their skin look better, however it's done, it's more than likely they will want some work done ... if possible Smile

So, to the question, I think it(skin treatment/retouching) looks great when it's done properly. I prefer to do as little as possible on my work, so I like to work with models that have good skin, but also that aren't concerned about having that kind of work done on images of them. It leaves me to play with the images more creatively.

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Pegon
Pegon  978 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2011 - 9:45 PM

Hi Angi, I think you've done a good job here, I like a bit of smoothing, too much though and then it looks horrible.
Pete.

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Daisymaye
Daisymaye e2 Member 5Daisymaye vcard Canada9 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jul 2011 - 11:47 PM

I like both depending on what you're after. It's knowing when to quit because it can look pretty weird when you go too far. These are both great..........Sandy

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