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A recent early morning trip to Sligachan, Isle of Skye. The first rays of sun peak through in front of Marsco to light up The Cuillin Hills on the right.
Three files merged in CS5.
I used a Lee 0.9 hard ND filter.

I am not sure about this image as I find the ridge line running through the centre a bit too prominent. I think this is partly the direction of the light and partly the distance between the ridge and the mountains behind. My choice and positioning of the filter may also be at fault.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Many thanks to all those who commented and voted on Loch Affric Sunrise and Boat on Loch Awe. Thanks to carson-images for his user award.

Cliff

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 5D MkII
Lens:EF24-70mm f/2.8L USM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:3 Feb 2012 - 8:54 AM
Focal Length:27mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/11.0
Shutter Speed:1/13sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:Sligachan sunrise
Username:Cliff1944 Cliff1944
Uploaded:12 Feb 2012 - 6:33 PM
Tags:Isle of skye, Landscape, Landscape / travel, Marsco, River, Rocks, Scotland, Sligachan, Sunrise, The cuillin hills
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mhfore
mhfore  7 England176 Constructive Critique Points
12 Feb 2012 - 7:38 PM

Hi Cliff,
To be fair there is not a lot I can do as a mod. Cliff you said that it's three images and I guess you've done some work on the first set of hills running through the middle. What I have tried to show (and I am a big believer in this) is the difference between shooting a panorama in landscape and portrait. In portrait you gain so much height that it's worth the time to take extra images, also, as you have cs5 you should be able to gain a good balance. With cs5 sometimes it's a good idea to click on the far left eye dropper (third in) and then click on white or grey in your image, this gives you a suggested white balance. You can also click on the "Targeted Adjustment Tool" fifth from the left (I think) and you can then click on a colour and slide left or right making that colour band darker or lighter. In Raw and cs5 there is so much that can be done to your images to make them pleasing to the eye without opening into photoshop (sometimes)

Cliff you have captured a good image that just needs a little more time spent in processing. Look at youtube for photoshop/cs5 tutorials, they really can be a big help.

Martin

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4139 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland111 Constructive Critique Points
12 Feb 2012 - 8:24 PM

Interesting to read your own concerns and what Martin has contributed above.
I cannot compete with that, but viewing the image for quite a while, I find it totally satisfactory from the compositional viewpoint, and I do not find the ridge running through the centre to be a problem.
Guess this is not the sort of crit. you are looking for, but that's how I see it.
Ronnie.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10840 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2833 Constructive Critique Points
12 Feb 2012 - 9:17 PM

Hi Cliff, - can you explain a little more what you are referring to.

The ridge line is too prominent, - do you mean tonally, in comparison to the rest of the image? Is it the dark, shadow area that runs through the centre, along the mid distance ridge?

If so, its not likely a filter placement issue as its not level, - it follows the contours of that ridge. It is possible to increase the shadow detail (decrease the shadow) using the shadow tool in CS3, 4 or 5.

Unfortunately, any modification uploaded will look quite poor due to the vast size difference, and fine points in the mod are lost.


I really like the original, its quite magnificent.




Regards


Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 12 Feb 2012 - 9:17 PM

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Scottishlandscapes
Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 1068 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
13 Feb 2012 - 6:13 PM

As Ronnie has said your composition is fine, your processing has opened a chasm between the background of Marsco and the Sgurr, the foreground is lifted too much and has left this great ghost along the ridge line.
If yo use the quick selection tool (5 down on the left hand Tools palette) along the bottom edge of the ridge line, then soften it with a decent level of Refine Edge on the top tool bar. Darken the foreground to better match with the mountains and then merge the two together.
It's easier than it sounds. Good Luck.

Dougie

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Cliff1944
Cliff1944 e2 Member 2Cliff1944 vcard Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
13 Feb 2012 - 9:03 PM

Martin, Ronnie, Willie and Dougie,
Thanks very much for your comments.
Until recently my "processing" has been limited to only basic adjustments in ACR, levels, curves and cleaning up in CS5.

I believe Dougie has accurately described my main concern with V1. I have had another go with V2 (although before reading his suggestion).

I went back to the original and changed the white balance. I then used the "targeted adjustment tool" in ACR (for the first time and as suggested by Martin) on the Sgurr which I hope has removed much of the ghosting on V1.

In CS5 I dodged the darker parts of the top of the ridge line to lighten it and hopefully further reduce the prominence of the ridge line.

I think I am moving in the right direction and the ridge line is less noticeable? I may try a different approach "selecting" the area below the ridge with refine edge.

Cliff

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom850 Constructive Critique Points
14 Feb 2012 - 6:24 PM

I prefer V1 - just to be different. Can't see too much wrong with it - superb equipment well used. In the days before Photoshop when we used a thing called film we had to get it right in the camera. I do play myself and some great stuff can be created in software - however, a really fine image will just need a bit of correction in the Histogram and a Smart Sharpen.

Paul

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10840 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2833 Constructive Critique Points
15 Feb 2012 - 5:56 PM

V2 is moving in the direction you want to go I think Cliff. Since your working with a tripod, you can also try some exposure bracketing, and then work with the multiple images in Photoshop, using areas you prefer from different images to get one you like.

Re Pauls comment, - you also need to be sure your monitor is well set up, and calibrated. The differences in V1 and 2 are largely colour balance, (more blue in the water in V1) and contrast, - and your monitor has a large effect on how you will see contrast on screen


W

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Cor
Cor  5 Belgium
14 Mar 2012 - 5:14 PM

SUPERB 10+++++
Cor.

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