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Perhaps you'll spot yesterday's image towards the left of V 1.
V 2 is posted for those who might feel the drain pipes are a distraction and ought not to be part of the image.
I'll be interested to see which you prefer.
Personally I prefer V 1.
Both images were captured in the stable courtyard in Pollok Country Park, Glasgow.

My thanks as ever for all the nice comments on Something Old, Something New - 2.

Ronnie.

Camera:Sony NEX-7
Lens:Sony 18-55mm.
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Focal Length:32mm.
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0
Aperture:f/8.0
Shutter Speed:1/160sec
Exposure Comp:0.00
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture
Metering Mode:Pattern
Flash:No
Title:"Something Old, Something New" - 2
Username:RonnieAG RonnieAG
Uploaded:15 Aug 2012 - 12:04 AM
Tags:Courtyard, Doorway, Drainpipes, Ferns, General, Glasgow, Hanging baskets, Neglect., Pollok country park, Stables
Votes:Voting Disabled
Views:185
Unique Views:70
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Irishkate
Irishkate Plus Member 432 forum postsIrishkate vcard United Kingdom80 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 12:16 AM

Each stands as a great image Ronnie but I must admit to
liking the one with pipes included.
Normally I go for 'perfect images' but the pipes add a 'Je ne sais quio'.
Hope my French spelling passes the test!
also it makes me feel I must get over to Pollock Park very soon.
When we were there earlier in year there was very little colour.
KateGrinGrinGrin

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achieverswales
15 Aug 2012 - 12:28 AM

V1 Ronnie! The drain pipes are part of the building, they also add more textures to this excellent upload.

Regards

Trev.

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 9905 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1722 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 12:28 AM

If you hadn't have uploaded V2, I'd have liked V1. Now, given the choice, I will go for V2. It's well balanced, and my attention seems to fall more upon the old door.

Last Modified By pamelajean at 15 Aug 2012 - 12:29 AM

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG Plus Member 5152 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland116 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 12:31 AM

Thank you for your early morning comments.......I will be interested to see which version is preferred.
I guess it sometimes difficult to know what to include and what to omit, and it begs the question...."What is the subject and focal point?"
Here I found it difficult to decide so chose to take both options.
Ronnie.

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mikbee
mikbee Plus Member 8mikbee vcard Scotland8 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 12:35 AM

Just love that grotty door Ronnie.
Prefer the tighter crop of V2 for that !!
Super shot.
(Yes Ronnie,the Fringe can be ''hard going'' with all the people there.Have to say I have struggled a bit this year with my shortage of breath after walking about for a while.You need to be lucky and find a bollard that the performers are not using to have a little rest !!)
Mick.

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Jocelia
Jocelia Plus Member 4Jocelia vcard Australia1 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 12:36 AM

I love both of your images Ronnie. The drain pipes certainly add to both
compostions. The textures, colours and general look of the old stone work
together with the old gate make it all and give it impact…

Jocelia……….

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EAS
EAS  6 Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 1:44 AM

What wonderful textures and colours in both images, Ronnie. Have gone to and fro and still can't decide which I prefer! Probably down to viewing at such a silly hour of the night!!!

Ann

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shush
shush Plus Member 4shush vcard Canada7 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 4:29 AM

Both versions are excellent but prefer V2 as it eliminates the distraction. In my opinion the door is the focal point given the tight crop on left flower pot and the hanging basket brackets/chains. Detail on the door and stone work is excellent.

Sushil

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CarolG
CarolG Plus Member 8185 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece18 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 5:26 AM

I think V.1 gets my vote, Ronnie, though both are grand presentations. What a wonderful display of flowers. Carol

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Deep_Bhatia
15 Aug 2012 - 5:36 AM

I prefer V1. Nicely composed. Deep

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Ray42
Ray42  7 England3 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 6:11 AM


Quote: Each stands as a great image Ronnie but I must admit to
liking the one with pipes included.....

I quite agree and also interesting to see your previous shot included - built in wall flowers!!!! Groan
A great find and two great shots

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MoragM
MoragM  5 Scotland
15 Aug 2012 - 6:12 AM

Two great images. Like Ann I shuttled between them both before
settling for V1. The drainpipes for me add that little bit more interest
and tells a whole different story from V2.

Morag

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netta1234
netta1234 Plus Member 3243 forum postsnetta1234 vcard Wales1 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 6:56 AM

I am the same,but decided on V1 because I really like that stone above the door and the colour of it and you can see it all in V1,
But both are Brilliant
NettaSmileSmile

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morpheus1955
15 Aug 2012 - 7:07 AM

Two excellent images, like them both with a very slight preference for V2 SmileSmile

Hugh

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fentiger
fentiger Plus Member 14915 forum postsfentiger vcard England23 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 7:52 AM


Quote: If you hadn't have uploaded V2, I'd have liked V1. Now, given the choice, I will go for V2. It's well balanced, and my attention seems to fall more upon the old door.

Yes I agree with Pamela.

Albert

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 Plus Member 51361 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England145 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 7:52 AM

An intetresting poser, Ronnie. On its own v2 looks good but when you put them side by side v1 seems to have a more natural balance and sits easier on the eye. I strugle to work out why. The drain pipe seem to act like the spine of a book, or hinge for the door that is the image, and the door within the image echoes that (a bit like an arch within an arch) - a bit early in the morning but I hope I not talking gibberish!

Dave

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barbarahirst
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15 Aug 2012 - 8:31 AM

V1 for me ....SmileSmile

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jdinne
jdinne  12 England
15 Aug 2012 - 8:36 AM

Well Ronnie as said above both would stand on their own. However when put side by side and compared it poses a problem. The drain pipes in V1 do add that little extra, so by the smallest imaginable margin V1. Please don't do this again to us Ronnie Smile

John

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EMJAYCEE
EMJAYCEE Plus Member 6EMJAYCEE vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 9:00 AM

Going with V2 Ronnie - the ancient grotty door being beautified by the hanging baskets makes a grand image. If you hadn't put this one up I would have been delighted with the drainpipe one. You win either way.WinkWinkWink
Joan.

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JohnChambersPhotography

V1 Ronnie pipes and all,

John

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annettep38
annettep38 Plus Member 4191 forum postsannettep38 vcard France33 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 9:51 AM

So pleasant , including the drainpipes!
What a refreshing view !

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CaroleS
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15 Aug 2012 - 10:08 AM

I loved V1 with the pipe, but V2 is the one for me Ronnie.
Carole

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JOKEN
JOKEN  6 United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 10:16 AM

V1 for me because I think the drain pipes are very much a part of the decrepid old building.
Ken

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digital_boi
15 Aug 2012 - 10:17 AM

V1 for me Ronnie i have often passed through the courtyard and thought it could do with a bit of work but then again it has its charms the way it is

Graham

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mashwood10
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15 Aug 2012 - 11:24 AM

I quite like the drainpipes Ronnie. It ' adds ' .GrinGrinGrin

Pam

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taggart
taggart Plus Member 1046 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 1:11 PM

What an eye you have for interest and beauty in an image-- The bright flowers aare a direct contrast to this wonderfull grungy structure!

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Fefe
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15 Aug 2012 - 1:19 PM

V1 for me, I like the inclusion of the drainpipesGrin
Diane

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rayme330
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15 Aug 2012 - 2:18 PM

Lovely shot , Ronnie V2 for me sans drainpipes.

Ray

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Billyray
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15 Aug 2012 - 2:21 PM

Good afternoon Ronnie, V2 for me, I prefer the closer shot without the drainpipes. Well seen and taken shot.
Ray

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troosers
troosers  3 Scotland
15 Aug 2012 - 2:53 PM

Both are good but I prefer 1, as the drain pipes add more interest for my eye. with the title being something old something new, the pipes give your picture a lot more old to look at, and I really like the fern growing from them.

Donald. Smile

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FeatherFriend
15 Aug 2012 - 4:06 PM

Beautiful colour and detail Ronnie, V2 for me,
Geoff.

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TrevBatWCC
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15 Aug 2012 - 4:10 PM

Seems odd that they should put up such lovely hanging baskets around a grotty door like that...but then, if I'd been around since 1745 I'd be looking pretty grotty! Wink A fine capture, Ronnie, and V1's my fave Smile
Trev Smile

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AnnChown
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15 Aug 2012 - 4:59 PM

Although I love those drains and ferns, I'm going for v2 Ronnie.
Ann

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Lillian
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15 Aug 2012 - 5:03 PM

Just has to be the V1 composition in full Ronnie, as yesterday
I loved he way you captured that fern and now get to see it in a even better viewing
with all the colour and that door ..wow that is some door!
definitely V2 for me
Lillian

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Cliff1944
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15 Aug 2012 - 5:28 PM

I prefer V1. The pipes seem to go with the uneven brickwork.
Cliff

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pluckyfilly
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15 Aug 2012 - 5:32 PM

I simply love this picture and can realize your dilemma faced with making a choice - I had not heard of the fringe, we learn all the time on EPZ -it was hubs bro and his wife that mentioned it as they had a short break in Scotland Reecently

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andylea  637 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 6:01 PM

v1 for me today ronnie love the comp wonderful detail and colour a real belter nice one Wink
andy

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15 Aug 2012 - 6:16 PM

Lovely to see the BIGGER picture Ronnie, very nice indeed.

John Smile

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tomcat
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15 Aug 2012 - 6:29 PM

How much did the plumber cost you, to remove and the replace the downpipesWink

Adrian

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carper123
carper123 Plus Member 3330 forum postscarper123 vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 7:39 PM

Two brilliant variations Ronnie, luv v2 colours, composition and clarity are superb. V1 i think i have seen part of this image somewhere beforeWinkWink lol.
Brilliant Ronnie.
Darryl. SmileSmileSmile

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jasonrwl
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15 Aug 2012 - 8:02 PM

Great images Ronnie - love the colour
Jason

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xwang
xwang  631 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 9:20 PM

Beautiful colour as always, Ronnie.
Composition.. generally speaking, I do like to see the structure as a whole, and leave the image a "breathing" space..rather than tight crop to make a "stronger" image. I'm not so sure about V2 either.. For me, it has less information from the life, but it is exactly what the argument is...I would like to see what a portrait format looks like at V1's angle either form left or right...

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Tynnwrlluniau
Tynnwrlluniau Plus Member 559 forum postsTynnwrlluniau vcard Wales37 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2012 - 10:25 PM

Both excellent in their own right, Ronnie. I think I'm more inclined to the simplicity of v2 though.
Alun

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Scottishlandscapes Plus Member 1068 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
16 Aug 2012 - 10:32 AM

V2 Ronnie just prefer the more compact composition, surely one of Glasgow's real gems with flowers like this.

Dougie

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bricurtis
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17 Aug 2012 - 11:41 PM

Prefer V2 Ronnie - love the flower colours and buildings textures - I see the door lentil dates 1743.
Brian

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27 Aug 2012 - 12:40 PM

Good to see the bigger picture Ronnie, love those floral displays which add some splashes of colour to these lovely images

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