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I always admire people who can take photos of flying birds or insects etc.I can't.( I still remember Paul's "Hovering",very impressive indeed).Mine,well,it's a bit mess.This is my first one,with a bit luck,I saw the pigeon was flying towards me,I took this photo.There was no time to think,just "Pigeon's coming, shoot!"moment(with camera,of courseSmile ) I was told that the footbridge was distracting by an EPZ friend,but my skill is limited,I don't know what (or how) to do with it. I cropped the image and sharpened the pigeon.Settings:Aperture-priority;S1/20sec;F5.6;ISO100;Focal length 120mm;Time:7:26am.
Criticisms, comments,all kind of MODs are very welcome,just have fun!Thank you

Title:Taking off
Username:xwang xwang
Uploaded:13 Jul 2010 - 8:54 PM
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OliPackwood
13 Jul 2010 - 9:00 PM

Nice shot. As you were shooting in AV you should (for this type of shot) choose the fastest aperture your lens has, to increase the shutter speed, because 1/20sec is too slow! Also ISO 100 is quite low, if you increase this then you shutter speed will become faster and you can capture shots like this with the wings sharp.

Hope this helps Smile Oli

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jul 2010 - 10:21 PM

This is actually quite a good attempt and the head is passably sharp. for a quick grab, not bad and interestingly blurred wings - almost a circle.

Ideally a rather faster shutter speed would have helped along with higher ISO - your 50D performs very well at 800 or even 1600. As we are looking at just 600 pixel images, could you have cropped rather closer before you reduced the size to 600 - the result would have had even more impact.

Nice try.

Paul

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10869 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2869 Constructive Critique Points
13 Jul 2010 - 11:25 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

One of the oddest and most amusing images Ive seen for ages.

Its looks like a plane in the thumbnail, with the two lines looking like wings and the blur like a propeller!

Its well done, - would love to see what you started out with as an original. If you want to remove the lines you need to carefully clone them out, - I did this in the mod but quite quickly just as an example. Also reduced noise by using Noise Ninja.

I had fun,


Regards


Willie

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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
14 Jul 2010 - 12:28 AM

Thank you Oli, I'll remember your advice in the future.Smile
Thank you Paul.Actually it was your "Hovering" that made me look out for this kind of opportunity.Your "Hovering" is still the best one I have ever seen.Thank you for your kind help and encouragement all the time.
Thank you Willie, I'm so glad that you had fun.(as I didSmile ) I wasn't prepared at all.I just turned the camera on and tried to take some photos of the flowers and then I saw the pigeon was coming...All the setting was wrongGrin,I didn't have chance,luckly one was RAW.The original settings left in the camera were white balance:Fluorescent and compensation B9,G9.Grin I corrected the white balance,but left the compensation as it was on this "original".Hope you have another laugh...
Thank you for your MOD.I'lll have another look...
xiaoli

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banehawi Critique Team 10869 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2869 Constructive Critique Points
14 Jul 2010 - 12:50 AM

I took a look at the original, - you did well to crop and sharpen, - now I know what those "lines" are



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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
14 Jul 2010 - 6:32 PM

Thank you very much Willie for giving me the idea to make the photo look betterSmile,even it's not easy for me.
Best wishes to you.
xiaoli

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ptitcendrier
14 Jul 2010 - 7:50 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

a nice attempt; above what was suggested above (higher shutter speed for sharpness, lower aperture and, if still necessary, higher ISO), I would add a bit of white balance adjustment. the photo as such has a very strong blue shade, which makes me think of a photo taken early in the morning, but i don't think this kind of shot needs the cold morning atmosphere. for more impact, i think that maybe a portrait crop (and not landscape) would also add.

that's all Smile

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15 Jul 2010 - 1:52 PM

I think it has all been said. Looking at the original, your crop is excellent. For a grab shot, you did well to focus on the pigeon's head so well. It's a fun shot and those wings look amazing.

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johnjones  5 England
15 Jul 2010 - 2:06 PM

Great shot like this one alot brill i have done a little mod hope you like.
jj

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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jul 2010 - 5:14 PM

Thank you Ptit,I think that the strong blue caused by the wrong setting with white balance at Fluorescent and the extreme compensation B9,G9.I should do more about it...I really don't know what portrait crop is...is it the one like John did? Still , thank you very much for your helpful comments.
Thank you Pamela for your compliment and support all the time,actually I do think of what you've told me all the time when I do cloning...without your teaching I could not do this one at all...
Thank you John for your interesting MOD,it perfectly matches the circle.Excellent idea indeed.I don't know why, it's just like all your photos ...it made me laugh...
Thank you all again for your kind help and support.
xiaoli

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15 Jul 2010 - 6:16 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

the "portrait", as opposed to "landscape", is the kind of shot you initially took: the one with the vertical sides longer than the horizontal ones... now that i gave it a second thought, perhaps square crop would have been better than portrait, but with the background you had (the descending lines of the fence) it now dawns on me that your crop is probably the best choice indeed, as Pamela suggested. (I still consider the WB adjustment necessary, though Tongue). You can do this with the processing software... depending on what you use, you can look for the white balance button, and then it's all about playing until you get the best white balance. (by selecting different color areas from the photo, if you try you'll see what i mean.) Apart from that, you could also improve the tones in the shot by adjusting the RGB channels until the blue shade fades off. Perhaps you already knew that, but I mentioned it whatsoever, to make sure.
Looking forward to seeing more shots Smile
Kind regards.

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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jul 2010 - 2:32 PM

Thank you very much Ptit for your kind explaination and helpful comments again.I followed your suggestion blindlySmile tried a bit hue map which I have never used before,to reduce blue and green, adjusted histogram and reduced the noise.It came out as another photo.I wonder if I did right or anything else I can do..Smile Thank you so much.
xiaoli

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davey_griffo
17 Jul 2010 - 10:19 AM

It is a very difficult skill, I've tried it myself. And the smaller the bird, the harder they are to photograph, as they tend to be faster. Geese & possibly ducks are my limit at the moment.

I also was going to advise toning down the handrails, but it's been done already.

Nice job getting the head in focus. I like the motion in the wings too.

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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
17 Jul 2010 - 9:38 PM

Thank you Dave,I just had a lucky moment,at the right time and right place.I can't do it if I want to...

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PaulLiley  5 United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2010 - 5:20 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Xwang,
I think this shot is so different and experimental and for that I like it. It's almost abstract in nature. If the whole body of the bird had been in sharp focus and wings blurred like they are (like a propeller mentioned above) I think the subject and way you have treated it has great potential as an idea. Look out for other birds (perhaps larger ones) which may be able to catch because they will be moving slower and make sure the wings are blurred like above and it should make for an interesting experiment. Maybe a swan in flight or goose and in open ground. I understand it was a random event and you just had milli-seconds to point and shoot and hope. You may be able to stage manage this idea in some way. there's the challenge. Paul

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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2010 - 6:04 PM

Thank you very much Paul for your encouragement.I'll take the challenge Grin.It's just a matter of luck actually,but you gave me an excellent idea,look out for the big birds..Thank you again.
xiaoli

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