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Another from the shores of Loch Tay @ Kenmore from the Sunday morning. Taken as a full frame shot but with the view of cropping it down to this pano format.

Cheers for dropping by, I'll catch up with you when I can throughout the day.

Paul

EDIT: Original [uncropped] version now posted for comparison.

Camera:Canon Eos 40D
Lens:17-70mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Tay Trees & Mountain Tops ...
Username:sut68 sut68
Uploaded:8 Nov 2010 - 9:07 AM
Tags:Boats, Isle of spar, Landscape / travel, Loch tay, Mist, Mountains, Team hornet, Transport, Trees
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adrian_w
adrian_w e2 Member 63277 forum postsadrian_w vcard Scotland4 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 9:10 AM

Love teh misty effect. I think both versions work requally.

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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England207 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 9:14 AM

Interesting to see the two version Paul, and lovely light and tones too. Think the crop works the best.
Regards Richard

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 9:16 AM

Thanks guys, I agree with you Richard.

Right, time to get back to it, catch up later folks Smile

Paul

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DarylH
DarylH  442 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 - 9:19 AM

Excellent both versions. I do think V2 gives more of a sense of isolation which I like.
Daryl

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OVrtnarHigi
8 Nov 2010 - 9:26 AM

Tip top reflection v1.

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DaveU
DaveU e2 Member 81339 forum postsDaveU vcard England121 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 9:26 AM

Good looking shot Paul ... I prefer V2 for that extra sense of space.

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Scaramanga
Scaramanga e2 Member 637 forum postsScaramanga vcard United Kingdom5 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 9:36 AM

V2 for me too, glad to have seen it large.

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moiral
moiral e2 Member 4moiral vcard Scotland
8 Nov 2010 - 9:38 AM

Beautiful shot, like them both equally. Moira

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richardwheel
8 Nov 2010 - 10:09 AM

There goes my post for today! Wink

Like the wider view though, especially those trees on the RHS. I didn't get it quite so W/A.

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 10:15 AM

Thanks all for dropping by, means a lot guys ... and to that generous person [you know who you are] a huge thanks indeed, you really shouldn't have, but ta all the same!!! Smile

Rich - nice to get my own back then Tongue

Last Modified By sut68 at 8 Nov 2010 - 10:16 AM

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JohnParminter
8 Nov 2010 - 10:30 AM

nicely condensed in this format Paul, bit lost and vague in the full size.

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Buffalo_Tom
Buffalo_Tom e2 Member 82322 forum postsBuffalo_Tom vcard Wales9 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 11:14 AM

Crop works perfectly.Excellent light.
Tom.

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GHGraham
GHGraham  4 Scotland10 Constructive Critique Points
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Composition is very good especially in cropped version but in an attempt to grab the shadows, a lot of high key detail has been given up which is a shame cos I would like to have seen the two boats more clearly and possibly some texture in the mist.

The trees are in shadow cos I know this place at this time of year is a huge contrast challenge which suggests shooting it BEFORE the sun rises might have reduced the dynamic range sufficient for the camera to capture it all.

Digital cameras have perhaps 2 to 2.5 stops of dynamic range above the mid tone (will record white cloud & retain some detail) and 3 - 4 stops of dynamic range below the midtone (record some shadow detail before going black).

Forget what the manufaturer says cos they are all telling stories.

This scene has at least 5 to 6 stops of dynamic range which is beyond your camera sensor if you set the shadows about 1 - 2 stops below mid tone which is what appears to be the case here.

I hope you had some more bracketed shots cos you could make a perfect scene here and give up some shadow detail without losing any impact.

These types of shots resonate with me which is why I spent so much time writing this.


Regards,

Graham

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RobboB
RobboB e2 Member 768 forum postsRobboB vcard United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 - 11:37 AM

This is like a Chinese landscape painting in my view. Wonderful. Pleased to make it an RC
R

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cassiecat
cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 11:56 AM

i like the less squoshed feel of v2.lesley

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franken
franken e2 Member 113046 forum postsfranken vcard Wales4 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 12:25 PM

Both versions work for me.

Ken

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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 6barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 12:31 PM

Lovely image
Think V1 gets the click today ... classy !!!

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richardwheel
8 Nov 2010 - 12:33 PM


Quote: Rich - nice to get my own back then

ha ha, touche! Wink

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LesF
LesF  7175 forum posts8 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 12:43 PM

Looks neat, V1 and as Barbara says, classy

LesF

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 1:04 PM

Thanks all for your time, particularly Graham for his considered thoughts.

I did get plenty of shots before the sun rose Graham [one or two may get an outing]. However, I altered my position - away from the Crannog - once the sun was catching the tops of the mountains. The more high key feel to the shot was intentional and it's what I'm happy with. I did have two grads on here [for the sky and one inverted for the loch] and they just kept enough detail [for me] to give me what I was looking for.

As for the boats, again I'm quite happy with how they came out myself, but can also see your point.

Thanks all,
Paul

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8 Nov 2010 - 1:05 PM

Stunning image - its not often I get stopped in my tracks with an image. This is very atmospheric and conveys a lovely sense of serentity. I definately go with the crop - to me it adds to the composition and focuses the eye more.

Great work

Steve

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fraser
fraser  10631 forum posts Scotland14 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 1:06 PM

I love the pano version and really like the high-key exposure.
Fraser

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Charlesmoss
8 Nov 2010 - 1:56 PM

the latterbox crop of v1 works better to me
Regards Charles

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artcubis
artcubis  7 United States6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 2:43 PM

Beautiful dreamy landscape.
V1 is an artistic wide landscape crop to accent the horizon.
V2 is a box crop that gives more prominence to the water.

Catherine

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Silverzone
8 Nov 2010 - 2:46 PM

Just simply beautiful. Sylvia

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bfgstew  7668 forum posts England105 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 4:05 PM

Love this Paul, the lack of colour doesn't detract from a quality image, perfect composition and camera work.

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rontear
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8 Nov 2010 - 4:23 PM

High key exposure is excellent Paul, wonder of nature. Ron.

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 5:15 PM

Big thanks all and sorry for the lateness in responding, been a little manic this afternoon.

Cheers for your time on this one folks Smile

Paul

PS: Once again, many thanks whoever you are ... I would thank you via PM if I knew who you were Smile

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martinl
martinl e2 Member 10248 forum postsmartinl vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 6:51 PM

V1 for me, and love those boats in the mist.
Smile

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2010 - 7:00 PM

Me too mate, cheers Smile

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Morgs
Morgs  6 Wales62 Constructive Critique Points
9 Nov 2010 - 8:54 AM

V1 for me. The crop is perfect.

Dave

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sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
9 Nov 2010 - 1:14 PM

Thanks Dave Smile

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Nigel_95
Nigel_95 e2 Member 8259 forum postsNigel_95 vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
9 Nov 2010 - 2:42 PM

Lovely light and colours on the upper slopes Paul. I would prefer a slightly less cropped version of V1 giving more space above and below the tree, and allowing the slope to reach the right and not the top.

Nigel

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
9 Nov 2010 - 6:22 PM

Cheers Nigel, point taken Smile

Paul

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javam
javam e2 Member 91083 forum postsjavam vcard United Kingdom19 Constructive Critique Points
9 Nov 2010 - 11:34 PM

Crop version for me too. I think the exposure works well and the details in the tress looks spot on. I would tend to agree with Nigel on the clipping of the top of the slope although I think the space above and below the trees is fine.

Shows the changing conditions well too when you compare this with some others taken on this morning. Cool blues and no sign of the crannog to golden sun on the peaks in about 15 minutes wasn't it?

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
10 Nov 2010 - 8:51 AM

Certainly was mate, but I suspected the conditions would change quickly with it being so clear. Point taken about the crop.

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Scott_Scot
10 Nov 2010 - 8:05 PM

Oooh, ooohh, ooooh, oooooooooohhh, quite like V1 ! Smile




Scotty

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sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
11 Nov 2010 - 8:56 AM

Nice one mate, cheers Smile

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Goggz
Goggz e2 Member 72301 forum postsGoggz vcard Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2010 - 6:02 PM

Both good in their different ways Smile
Cheers, Goggz

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sut68
sut68  101994 forum posts England76 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2010 - 7:31 PM

Thanks Pete, appreciate it Smile

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