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This was taken on Sunday at mid-day.

I've tried to darken the sky but it has caused a weird edge to develop on the right flank of the mountain and changed the sky colour to a magenta? tinge. Am I being too critical or do you see it as well?

Any advice gratefully accepted, as I am a bit cheesed off with it.

Cheers, Goggz

Camera:Rangefinder
Lens:14-24
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:The Shepherd
Username:Goggz Goggz
Uploaded:14 Nov 2008 - 4:28 PM
Tags:08, Buachaille etive mor, Landscape / travel, Nov, Rowardennan, The last
Votes:55
Group Event:Rowardennans last
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Falconer
Falconer  9
14 Nov 2008 - 4:30 PM

lovely mood in challenging conditions

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NexusImages
14 Nov 2008 - 4:34 PM

This is bloody marvelous Pete. Dunno what your moaning about. Wink
m.x.

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JouŠo
JouŠo  1056 forum posts Finland
14 Nov 2008 - 4:36 PM

classic...

Jouko

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richardwheel
14 Nov 2008 - 4:37 PM


Quote: This is bloody marvelous Pete

yup, agreed, now stop fiddling Smile

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iancam
iancam  6 England
14 Nov 2008 - 4:39 PM

Wonderful
Ian

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MrsS
MrsS  84527 forum posts England18 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 5:11 PM


Quote: This is bloody marvelous Pete

Right! So now THREE of us have told you, will you start listening, please!? Wink

F x

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jdenman
jdenman  6 Spain5 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 5:15 PM

I think it should be left alone as it is, a beautiful landscape with cracking sky.
John

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nuts  7 Netherlands
14 Nov 2008 - 6:11 PM

awsome

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Dimitre_P
Dimitre_P  5 Bulgaria
14 Nov 2008 - 6:21 PM

This is beautiful...wow...great colors..
Dimitre

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accystan
accystan  9132 forum posts Canada6 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 6:25 PM

A stunning landscape with just the right shutter speed to convey a sense of motion in the water.

It came across on both my (lcd) screens as having a little too much magenta so I've uploaded a mod. Getting these screens to show a 'correct' spectrum is a problem and I don't care to spend money on monitor calibration software.

Cheers,

Dave D

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looboss  73124 forum posts United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 6:31 PM

Done a modest mod Smile

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webjam
webjam  10292 forum posts Netherlands11 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 6:47 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hmmmm, pink.... And the other of Rannoch Moor pink as wel....
Are you finding the feminine side of yourself, Goggz? Smile

Think there could be a problem just with processing the RAW files. In Capture One (I use the LE version), you can add magnenta or lessen it with a slider which is found in the White Balance tab. Maybe it is a setting like this which is turned on?

The pic is pretty light on my monitor here - yeah, I am exploring my 'darker' side... A tiny bit darker and the pink will be just a part of the overall image and add a sense of mystery.

Jacqueline

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newy17
newy17  8273 forum posts United Kingdom
14 Nov 2008 - 6:54 PM

A Beauty pete Smile done a mod Smile
ian

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jeanie
jeanie e2 Member 105968 forum postsjeanie vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 7:00 PM

I love the overall image. Some good alternatives there in the mods section too. Like Mand's version.

Jeanie

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Blenkinsopp
14 Nov 2008 - 7:08 PM

Think you are being quite hard on yourself - of course others will notice things if you point them out !!
- love the detail and movement in the water

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cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 7:19 PM

this is beautiful.lesley

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xstevex  689 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 8:06 PM

looks ok to me

steve

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bromley-smith
14 Nov 2008 - 8:11 PM

Perfection is in the eye of the beholder, looks good to me. Tony

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Nigel_95
Nigel_95 e2 Member 8260 forum postsNigel_95 vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 8:45 PM

Where is this Pete? Wink
It was a pleasure to meet you at the weekend. I hope your hand is better soon.

Nigel

Last Modified By Nigel_95 at 14 Nov 2008 - 8:45 PM

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conrad
conrad  1010874 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 10:38 PM

You're right about the magenta, but it's a colour I happen to like... Smile

Still a good shot. Oh, and I rather like some of the mods as well.

Last Modified By conrad at 14 Nov 2008 - 10:39 PM

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fatherpie  6 England12 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 10:49 PM

Great work IMHO
Dave

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Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 10:56 PM


Quote: Hmmmm, pink.... And the other of Rannoch Moor pink as well....
Are you finding the feminine side of yourself, Goggz?

Errr.... nope!


Quote: A tiny bit darker and the pink will be just a part of the overall image and add a sense of mystery.
Jacqueline

Fair enough Jacqueline. I'll give it a try again. My monitor is calibrated so there shouldn't be a problem there. Perhaps I've done something in Lightroom that has made it this way. Anyhow, it seems as though you all think it's passable. Thanks for that Smile

And thanks Mand, Accystan, Looboss & Newy17 for the mods. Some interesting points in there, with changes to channels etc. Things I'd never think of!

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linda63
linda63  668 forum posts Wales
14 Nov 2008 - 11:18 PM

Great place Pete.
Linda

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SuperRoo  763 forum posts Australia1 Constructive Critique Points
14 Nov 2008 - 11:37 PM

Tremendous capture Pete... tremendous movement in the water!!! Can't help you with the colour issues as I'm partially colour blind... but I think a mono version would solve your problem!!! Wink

Paul

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Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 12:19 AM

Hoi Linda!! Smile Yeah, a great place! Until you fall into the river that is Sad

Paul - I was goin to upload a mono version later! Cheap votes Wink

Nice conversion too!
Cheers, Goggz

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rowarrior
rowarrior  64350 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 12:32 AM

Ahem, stop fiddling with yourself right now Wink Does look quite pink on the left, but who cares, it works!

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Goggz
Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 12:59 AM

One thing I'd forgotten about (and you reminded me of it Katy with your sunny smile) is that this was shot into the "sun". I wonder if I'm just making the tinge more obvious in the processing...

Anyway, off to bed now - no more fiddling Wink

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Wooly  8112 forum posts England4 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 8:23 AM

A superb capture Pete. Couldn't resist a mod.

Alan

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Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 11:39 AM

Ta Wooly! An excellent mod too!

Here is what Alan wrote on his mod (No: 6):


Quote: Couldn't resist having a tweak at this cracking image.

Converted it to 16bit LAB mode.

Adjusted the a&b channels to kill the colour cast and masked out the f/g

Used a very fine blur brush on the right edge of the mountain.

Gave the L channel a contast curve and killed some of that in the f/g

Added a touch more USM just to the L channel and again masked a touch of that in the f/g


Interesting stuff. This is probably what confuses me the most about photoshop - there are so many different ways to skin the cat!

Cheers, Goggz

Last Modified By Goggz at 15 Nov 2008 - 11:40 AM

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digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 12:14 PM

There may be a slight cast but it's still a stunning shot. Might be worth tweaking the curves a touch to bring out the mood.

Ian

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bunbeam
bunbeam  9 United Kingdom
15 Nov 2008 - 12:15 PM

amazing shot, well captured
bunSmile

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Goggz
Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 4:20 PM

Thanks Ian, I'm working on a redo at the moment.

CHeers Bun!

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webjam
webjam  10292 forum posts Netherlands11 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2008 - 9:21 PM

OK, where is the new version... Wink

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Goggz
Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
16 Nov 2008 - 1:03 AM

Sorry Jacqueline, I've thrown my hands up in despair... every time I think I've got it right I get some horrible pink cast or another crappy end result. I've figured out the weird stuff on the right of the mountain - that is chromatic aberration and I've sorted it out in LR2 with -7 red/cyan & +21 blue/yellow, with defringe off. As soon as I try and do a second layer and Multiply, it seems to bring it back with a vengeance. All I want to achieve is a nice moody sky and a normal looking foreground.

However, when I get the image loaded into CS3 and start playing around with it, I can't help thinking that I should have done a 3 stop bracket, so that I can get it right by doing an HDR, instead of continuing with the -1EV original file that I have. In other words, I am cheesed off trying to convert a pigs ear into a silk purse...

Perhaps I should do a single exposure, three stop HDR... anyway, I have a whole bottle of 13% Cabernet Sauvignon (Calloway Crossing Smile ) floating around in my bloodstream at the moment and I'm in no mood to do anything constructive. I'll try again later today (tomorrow).

Hic! Goggz Smile

p.s. thanks for all the mods and constructive comments gals & guys... we need to get this nailed so I learn something...

Peace & LOve to all Smile

Last Modified By Goggz at 16 Nov 2008 - 1:07 AM

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brownsilent e2 Member 7brownsilent vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
16 Nov 2008 - 10:06 PM

Ok Pete, as I see everything through pink glasses when it comes to Scotland - I don't mind the pink hues. I think it is a fabulous image, great composition and ......................... sooooooooo Scottish!
Johanna

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16 Nov 2008 - 10:06 PM

Ok Pete, as I see everything through pink glasses when it comes to Scotland - I don't mind the pink hues. I think it is a fabulous image, great composition and ......................... sooooooooo Scottish!
Johanna

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Goggz  72301 forum posts Wales72 Constructive Critique Points
16 Nov 2008 - 10:27 PM

Thank You Johanna!

Thanks You Johanna! Wink

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