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i am trying to achieve a rugged look to my black and white shots,also i dropped my fecking camera 20ft down the cliff just after i took thisSad

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 1000D
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:27 Jan 2013 - 1:05 PM
Focal Length:24mm
Aperture:f/10.0
Shutter Speed:1/200sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:The Storm
Username:illuvator illuvator
Uploaded:27 Jan 2013 - 3:46 PM
Tags:Black & white, General, Landscape / travel, Photo journalism, Sports / action, Transport, Wildlife / nature
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Dinky65
Dinky65  1 United States
27 Jan 2013 - 4:11 PM

I really like the BW look I think you got the look you wanted. I'm sorry you dropped your camera just glad it was nit you that fell 20 ft.SmileTongueWink

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tilneyg44
tilneyg44 Junior Member 6 England1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Jan 2013 - 6:27 PM

Wow, Great B/W Smile
Oh Dear, Shame about dropping your camera Sad

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41207 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jan 2013 - 9:01 AM

I don't think there's any need for that kind of language. Remember this site is accessed by minors too.

Nick

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jan 2013 - 9:04 AM

Shame about the camera but you did at least get it bck otherwise you wouldn't have been able to upload this shot! One thing I always do is to wear the camera strap around my neck at all times whilst in use, just in case I have a senior moment and do what you managed to do here. Although only very slight, the horizon is off a bit (dropping to the right) was that just before you dropped the thing?

You have at least achieved a slight rugged look but a slight lightening of the rocks RHS would have increased that feature.

Frank

Last Modified By Focus_Man at 28 Jan 2013 - 9:04 AM

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illuvator
illuvator  3 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2013 - 1:54 PM


Quote: I don't think there's any need for that kind of language. Remember this site is accessed by minors too.

Nick

I didnt swear!if its alright for father ted which is on in the daytime on sky then its ok for me,get over itSmileSmile

Last Modified By illuvator at 28 Jan 2013 - 1:56 PM

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom851 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jan 2013 - 7:48 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Not sure mono was a good idea. The grey tones of sea and rock are too similar and it is difficult to distinguish between the two. You must have sufficient tonal range to give full differentiation of subject in complex areas.

Paul

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illuvator
illuvator  3 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2013 - 8:43 PM


Quote: Not sure mono was a good idea. The grey tones of sea and rock are too similar and it is difficult to distinguish between the two. You must have sufficient tonal range to give full differentiation of subject in complex areas.

Paul

Hi Paul
Thanks for the comments,not sure as what you mean by full tonal range as the sea was grey because of the storm so it was probably the same colour as the rocks so couldnt be helped,any ideas of how i can improve the shot,cheers

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Sooty_1 Critique Team 41207 forum posts United Kingdom198 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jan 2013 - 9:19 PM


Quote: I didnt swear!if its alright for father ted which is on in the daytime on sky then its ok for me,get over it

Ah, that makes it ok then. Grow up. What's wrong with just "I dropped my camera 20ft down the cliff just after i took this"? Everyone knows exactly what you mean, changing one letter doesn't make it right and it wasn't necessary for what you wanted to say.
Besides, I'm not going to argue the toss over tv schedules, but I've never seen "Father Ted" before the watershed because of the language and concepts contained therein.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom851 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2013 - 9:20 AM

If the sea colour and rock colour were different, then you could use the channel mixer to alter the grey tones of one of them. If not, you could try judicious use of the dodge tool. Failing both, use colour to differentiate. Tonal compression is a problem with mono where there are only the 256 shades of grey to go at on a screen.

Paul

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illuvator
illuvator  3 United Kingdom
29 Jan 2013 - 1:29 PM


Quote: I didnt swear!if its alright for father ted which is on in the daytime on sky then its ok for me,get over it

Ah, that makes it ok then. Grow up. What's wrong with just "I dropped my camera 20ft down the cliff just after i took this"? Everyone knows exactly what you mean, changing one letter doesn't make it right and it wasn't necessary for what you wanted to say.
Besides, I'm not going to argue the toss over tv schedules, but I've never seen "Father Ted" before the watershed because of the language and concepts contained therein.

Now that WAS a rant,and im supposed to grow up,and i didnt swear.Grin

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10865 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2860 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2013 - 8:38 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Would be nice if you could upload the colour version to try some different methods for conversion.


The scene for me is OK, conversion is not bad. The overall impression I get is theres a good foreground, with a lighthouse right where you dont want one, in the middle. The horizon is very high, - in order to show the good foreground, so its sort of a mixed bag.

So Ive tried a couple of tweaks and uploaded what Ive got. First, theres a slight curve to the horizon, very small, due to the wide lens. Ive removed it in both mods. I tried a duo tone to try to get a little more tonal range, and removed noise in the sky. I didnt expect noise at this ISO, so not sure why its there. Im happier with mod2, that removes a lot of the foreground for a horizon on a third crop, - and perhaps thats because theres less going on. In the original I fond Im wanting to see where that water at the bottom is going. Might even work showing the sea only.


Hope this gives you some ideas, - and if you can, upload the colour version as a mod.



regards



Willie

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