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Just moved into my apartment and this the view from the balcony, thought id try some more tone mapping...once i get my tripod iam going to try some HDR on this. preferably try and take some shots in the night as well from downstairs. Iam a little unsure on the composition i think it works at a certain level but not too sure.

V2 is the mono conversion, used a yellow filter on this one.

Feedback as always is welcome

Camera:Canon EOS 7D
Lens:EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:28 Apr 2012 - 8:52 PM
Focal Length:18mm
Aperture:f/4.8
Shutter Speed:1/181sec
ISO:200
Title:The view
Username:devlin devlin
Uploaded:1 May 2012 - 12:24 AM
Tags:Architecture, Black & white, Digitally manipulated, General
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Jocelia
Jocelia e2 Member 3Jocelia vcard Australia1 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 1:14 AM

Hey, good view and capture here. The cloud formation is good, try to bring out the colours
in the sky………Have fun and good luck……….Jocelia

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10820 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2820 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 1:22 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I like the shot. The collection of different styles of buildings is very interesting, lots for the eye to wander around.

The tone mapping is well done. When I switch between the two, what jumps out right away is that the colour version looks soft here, - so I know its a re sizing loss of detail (uploaded sharpened mod).

The mono works for me too, though I think when you get set up with the tripod you will get some really good colour shots, especially at night. Theres also the opportunity with the mono version to experiment with the sky, getting a ark and moody look that can work too.


Good work,




Regards



Willie

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charlotte
charlotte e2 Member 1034 forum postscharlotte vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 3:59 AM

It's the B&W image for me. Fantastic tones which work really well with this shot. Top stuff!

Charlotte

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom845 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 7:22 AM

Both quite good but looks HDR, even if it isn't. That slight flatness that HDr brings - almost always seems to me to be that bit un-natural.

Paul

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tonyguitar
1 May 2012 - 7:28 AM

Odd how Charlotte and I have opposite opinions. The colour version is somewhat pastel and seems perfect. I assure you the composition is just right as well. The B&W is technically good, but for me the featured buildings are too modern for B&W. Just a personal preference I guess. Image one is a winner! TG

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NDODS e2 Member 33063 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom101 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 7:42 AM

I much prefer the colour version, simply because I think you have a bag full of options when converting to HDR when using monochrome. Still two crackers.

Regards Nathan

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41033 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England134 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 9:42 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The composition works fine for me, I was immediately drawn to the clock tower then followed the road around and up the middle. The only slight niggle is the phone mast on the top of the right side tower block. It stops the eye from sweeping across the top part of the image (reduce by half??). I do prefer the colour version as the image is quite busy and the colour seems to help separate the information.

Dave

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41195 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
1 May 2012 - 9:52 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The composition works for me, I would just like to see the mast not so close to the edge of the frame. I see you used your zoom as wide as it will go, but I would love to see a slightly wider view, with the same essential arrangement.

The colour version works better for me, as B&W tonemapped leads to a lot of similar toned areas. The best thing about B&W is the contrast and graphic nature you can get. If you tonemap it all out, all the buildings are the same tone and become visually uninteresting.

Nick

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devlin
devlin  4651 forum posts India39 Constructive Critique Points
2 May 2012 - 11:09 AM

Cheers guys thanks for all the feedback, much appreciated....Smile, on the mast and space between it and the frame the original had no issues with it but since i am pretty shocking at getting my verticals correct when iam taking shots handheld so hence lost out the space on the top when i corrected this maybe a compromise would have been to shorten it a bit

Nick - Thanks for the tip on tonemapping vs how it plays out in mono...not sure i completely understood it but will do some more research Smile

Cheers

Prabh

Last Modified By devlin at 2 May 2012 - 11:32 AM

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DRicherby
DRicherby  5269 forum posts United Kingdom725 Constructive Critique Points
4 May 2012 - 10:08 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

To get the verticals (nearly) correct in the camera, use the autofocus points as a guide. Line up the column of them that goes through the centre against a true vertical and then move the camera to get the composition you want. The reason for using the centre ones is that a vertical line through the centre will remain vertical when you tilt the camera up or down -- if you use an off-centre vertical in the viewfinder, you might be aligning not against true vertical but against a line that's angled by being in receding perspective.

Also, why HDR? The purpose of HDR is to take a scene whose contrast is too high to represent in an image and reduce that contrast until it can be displayed on screen. Here, the range of contrast looks well within the capabilities of your camera's sensor -- so why do you want to reduce it? HDR may be useful for night shots, where the bright lights are vastly brighter than the darker areas. But this shot was already a low-contrast image and tone-mapping has reduced the contrast even more.

Dave.

Last Modified By DRicherby at 4 May 2012 - 10:11 AM

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devlin
devlin  4651 forum posts India39 Constructive Critique Points
5 May 2012 - 10:38 AM

Thanks Dave, there really is no logic to this right now, i was trying to create something different with a bit of interest as compared to the original Smile i will give the HDR a try on the night shots and see where we get...i tried something last night but it seems to have been a bit too noisy for me ...trying to come to grips with that one.....

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