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Photo was taken during one of our monthly walks in villages and towns which the society organize.

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D3000 Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:10 Feb 2013 - 10:51 AM
Focal Length:26mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.3
Aperture:f/5.6
Shutter Speed:1/400sec
Exposure Comp:-1.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Auto
Title:Three
Username:dusfim dusfim
Uploaded:25 Mar 2013 - 8:25 PM
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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 8:39 PM

I think a more apt name would have been Two and a Half Man, but you would risk getting sued! This is interesting and original, with the only thing bugging me is the fact that the vertical lines are slightly tilted. It seems it's the structure itself that wasn't straight though, as the horizontal line is quite straight looking to me, so it's not a question of rotating the image as it would offset the horizontal portion.

Well done! Was this shot in Malta?

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dusfim
dusfim  4 Malta
25 Mar 2013 - 8:52 PM

Yes it was shot in Malta in Ghaxaq. Thanks for your constructive critique. In my opinion the center vertical line is straight of you compare it with the frame, but I accept your critique. Dusfim

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 9:03 PM

So, I've loaded this in an editor and noticed that the verticals on the far left are tilted, whilst the two in the middle are almost perpendicular to the horizontal line at the bottom, with the right-most vertical line being just slightly tilted (key word here is slightly). I think I noticed the tilting more given that if you move your eyes from left to right, you start off with the area where the verticals are tilted, and by inference you perceive the middle ones as being tilted as well. As I said though, this is not because the photo was taken at a tilt, but because the subject itself was tilted, and I don't think it needs correcting actually. It simply stood out a bit, though at the same time it adds character I guess.

One more thing, have you considered giving this the mono-treatment? There are some nice textures here and taking away colour can only bring them out more!

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 9:05 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

i love the subject and the textures are great but i wonder if the main interest is in the panel with the figures and if a stronger shot would have resulted from a tighter crop with vertical format on just that board. im finding the panel on the base distracting a little.

its a great idea but i think simple though it is it needed a considered approach to the composition
Phil

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 9:13 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Uploaded a modification in b/w myself actually. I've forgotten to add a further detail. Cropped off a bit from the image as I tried to fix the tilting I was referring to by using distortion correction tools in Paint Shop Pro (vertical perspective correction). The lines look more vertical to me now so there's less of a distraction for those like me who nit-pick on these elements! Wink

Finally, I think this can work in a different composition too as Phil suggested, though I quite like this approach as it gives more information on where the three men were sprayed, whilst isolating them might lose out on this element. I don't know though - maybe a mod would help Phil? Wink

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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 8520 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1088 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 9:19 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

First off I love this, I rather wish that awards weren't disabled! It's the fact that those ghostly stencilled figures are on a layer of paint which is peeling away, so they will gradually disappear from view.
The textures and tones are beautiful - paint fades to such subtle pastels. There was enough directional light to give shadow to show up the textures but not enough to kill the colour. I remember a member who specialises in this sort of subject said a while ago that the test of a peeling paint image is when you feel you could scrape it off the monitor screen - this passes.
The 'vertical' on the left is a bit distracting but basically this is a structure that probably doesn't have a single true right angle to its name. So I would go with Alistair's perspective adjustment but keep the colour. I might look at a crop though. A Mod will follow...
Moira

Last Modified By mrswoolybill at 25 Mar 2013 - 9:20 PM

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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 8520 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1088 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 9:32 PM

I've uploaded a quick Mod. I've tried to give two true verticals, plus a tighter crop keeping the original proportions - just so show a simpler composition as an alternative. I looked for a square crop but didn't like the results.
I also set the Burn tool to shadows, 4% exposure and a large brush size, and simply swept it over the screen. That adds to the 'scrapablity' factor for me, makes the peeling paint more tactile.
Cheers,
Moira

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 10:03 PM

I love Moira's mod as well. Truly a picture worth playing with! Wink Good job Mario.

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 10:17 PM

id love to do a mod but ive been without photoshop for near 2 weeks whilst my computer is repaired sorry but im using a borrowed laptop right now
Phil

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 2124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
25 Mar 2013 - 11:31 PM

Alistair is right about the B+W mod however this image also needs some colour to bring out the detail. In my mod I have merged a B+W layer with the colour layer and then reduced the opacity of the colour layer to 65% this keeps the colour although it is muted and allows the B+W layer to show off the detail in the wood.

Erik Grin

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derrymaine
26 Mar 2013 - 5:53 AM

black and white would work I think, and I would emphasize the texture

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dusfim
dusfim  4 Malta
26 Mar 2013 - 7:25 AM

Thanks to all for your constructive critique and the Mods. Dusfim

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salopian
salopian e2 Member 3salopian vcard United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
26 Mar 2013 - 11:15 AM

A fascinating image which is effective in either mono or colour. I would keep the right hand panel as there are three vertical strips of peeling paint on this which match the three figures on the left.

Geoff

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salopian e2 Member 3salopian vcard United Kingdom18 Constructive Critique Points
26 Mar 2013 - 11:21 AM

A fascinating image which works well in either mono or colour. I would keep the right hand panel as it has three vertical strips of peeling which match the figures on the left - this comes out well in Derrymaine's mod.

Geoff

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Joline
Joline e2 Member 8Joline vcard United States52 Constructive Critique Points
26 Mar 2013 - 11:41 AM

Of all the mods, I think Mrs. Woolybill has the right idea. This is a great subject, and for me the mono simply detracts from it. That wonderful blue peeling paint is half the beauty of this.

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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 8520 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1088 Constructive Critique Points
26 Mar 2013 - 12:46 PM


Quote: the right hand panel ... has three vertical strips of peeling which match the figures on the left

Good observation, I instinctively retained those strips without really thinking why.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom879 Constructive Critique Points
26 Mar 2013 - 6:00 PM

Very nice. Well seen and recorded. Good tight composition. Centre upright is vertical and I think we worry about verticals too much on occasions. Left slight lean may well be quite natural an is no problem at all.

Paul

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