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Another offering from Yorkshire Sculpture Park. I thought this would work well in mono so I had a bash. Conversion done in Adobe Camera RAW using the Grayscale mixer (8 separate colour channels). I will upload the colour version too for comparison or for anyone to try something different.
I originally had the camera set level on the tripod but instead decided to lay on the floor and shoot upwards. I thnk the lens distortion makes it more dramatic.
Looking forward to your comments and ideas.
Phil

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D90 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:10.0-20.0 mm f/4.0-5.6
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:19 Sep 2012 - 12:34 PM
Focal Length:10mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0
Aperture:f/11.0
Shutter Speed:1/40sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Auto
Title:Trio
Username:Philo Philo
Uploaded:26 Sep 2012 - 8:15 AM
Tags:Black & white, Yorkshire sculpture park
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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England210 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 8:32 AM

Good one work here Phil, they stand out well in this

Last Modified By Richsr at 26 Sep 2012 - 8:33 AM

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 9:46 AM

Seems to be a good place to visit Phil. Nice picture no crits but I prefer the coloured version.

Frank

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Philo e2 Member 479 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 11:03 AM

Thanks guys, I prefer the colour too but I like to have a dabble at monos every now and then. It is a great place, Frank, and you only need to pay for parking.
Phil

Last Modified By Philo at 26 Sep 2012 - 11:03 AM

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41227 forum posts United Kingdom202 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 11:29 AM

I think the dramatic angle works fine. Squared up might have been a bit static, but as is, there is life in the picture.

Lit front on, there isn't as much texture as one would have liked, and I'm not sure why the mono one seems to lack impact, but I prefer the colour one too. Maybe there seems enough contrast but not a lot of colour, so I think I'd add a bit of saturation to give it 'punch'.

Your main problem (I think) is shooting in the middle of the day. Don't know about opening times, but more dramatic light would help. Good otherwise.

Nick

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Sooty_1 Critique Team 41227 forum posts United Kingdom202 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 11:41 AM

Just done a couple of 2 minute mods...not often I'm on my laptop!

Colour version pushed colour and midtone value, mono version tonal values adjusted and red filtration added.

Nick

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Philo
Philo e2 Member 479 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 11:47 AM

Thanks, Nick, I really love your mono, it now has some serious impact.Grin
You are correct about the light but I seldom get to places at the right time of day so it is a case of trying to make the best of the opportunity. I will go back though and I may even try lighting the sculptures with flashes.

Phil

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alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 12:50 PM

I like Sooty's BW mod - it gives the picture greater depth and a "3D" effect which your variant wasn't as able to convey - the introduction of the gradient and some contrast really helped. Your BW looked a bit faded right away - in fact I prefer the colour variant if I had to choose. Sometimes, colours look very different but the minute you convert them to B/W you realise they have the same intensity and they look exactly the same in greyscale. Don't know if you were aware of that, and if not, keep it in mind! Might come in handy.

Regardless, the picture is nice and the trio-approach to the composition is good in my opinion. What I'd try avoid if possible is that tree coming out from behind the third monument (on right). The "intrusion" is a bit too big for a BG when compared to the subject size.

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Philo
Philo e2 Member 479 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 1:13 PM

Thanks, Alastair, I know very little about mono conversions so every bit of info helps. I agree with you regarding the tree but there is very little I could have done about it. I was on the floor but looking uphill. My only option would be to shoot it from the opposite direction.
Phil

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 1:37 PM

Changing direction could have helped in fact, otherwise maybe through some editing maybe, trying to remove it digitally after the shoot. Cloning, healing brush, content-aware fills etc all can help.

Unfortunately, that tree also fell on a third in the picture so it does attract your eye (at least mine) a bit more than it should for a background item.

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banehawi Critique Team 10933 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2945 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 5:10 PM

The low angle, and the mono work well Phil. I like Nicks more dramatic version, - you have virtually limitless options with the amount of sliders you have.

Just so Im not left out, I will try something different.


regards


Willie

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Philo e2 Member 479 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
27 Sep 2012 - 6:27 AM

Thanks again, Alastair, it does look better without the tree. Willie, the aspect ratio works well and I do like both mods. As you say there are so many options.
Phil

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paulbroad
paulbroad  782 forum posts United Kingdom872 Constructive Critique Points
27 Sep 2012 - 12:16 PM

I like the compositionbut, and I've never thought this about your work before, I think it's a bit over exposed. I would darken, then using the colour sliders in mono mode, go for a near infra red effect. The sky screams for that. Am on my tablet, but will try and do a mod when on the desktop.

Paul

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paulbroad  782 forum posts United Kingdom872 Constructive Critique Points
28 Sep 2012 - 7:52 AM

I've tried my mod. Near infra red.
Paul

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Philo
Philo e2 Member 479 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
28 Sep 2012 - 8:12 AM

Not sure the shot is over exposed, Paul, maybe it is to do with the conversion. Thanks for the mod, it certainly oozes impact, so I must have a go at that.
Phil

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