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The start of what I hope to be a long term project.

I have long been an admirer of the work of Yves Lecoq

I would post a link but he only posts on a.n.other photo site and doesn't have his own website. Besides I'm sure you all know how to use Google.

Total honesty this is a composite of royalty free images. I was trying out a new avenue of work - I will post the three originals alongside so you can see where I'm starting from (I chose 3 mundane images on purpose). I wasn't going to post, but was encouraged to by someone who will remain nameless. But thanks Wink

I would appreciate those with a critical eye to give it the once over, particularly those with experience in doing composites / digital manipulation, as i'm still very green when it comes to Photoshop manipulation..

This will be the first and last time I use such images, I have already started to search for my own stock images. Just need to find a few willing "volunteers" to act as models - any takers ? LOL Smile

I'm expecting a bit of a mixed reception from this as a result, I was going to disable voting but forgot to tick the box, oh well.

Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:Waking The Witch
Username:Nick_w Nick_w
Uploaded:4 Sep 2011 - 5:25 PM
Tags:Black & white, Digitally manipulated, Dreamscape, Humour / fun, Sqaure, Squarescape
Votes:85
Variant - TutorialVariant - Tutorial

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Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman e2 Member 114521 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 5:49 PM

Clever manipulation work....

Ade

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Roly
Roly  7 Wales
4 Sep 2011 - 5:58 PM

V1 is excellent.

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realgraphics
4 Sep 2011 - 6:01 PM

this is great i love the showing of your sources

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Jon.H
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4 Sep 2011 - 6:04 PM

Great work.

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blomman
blomman  10 Sweden
4 Sep 2011 - 6:16 PM

Love it, well performed.

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DaveGu
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4 Sep 2011 - 6:23 PM

Like it, good ps work.

Dave

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Sean_Dillon
4 Sep 2011 - 6:34 PM

Greta work, its always great to have some insight into how these are put together - so thank you for showing.
John

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MrsS
MrsS  84527 forum posts England18 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 6:42 PM

Nicely done Smile

Fran x

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chase
chase Critique Team 91118 forum postschase vcard England240 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 6:56 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Well done Nick,a good composite.
Would perhaps have liked to have seen a little more shadow cast by the subject with the light behind her I suspect they would have been slightly longer.
I do think the mono conversion works well here & the vignette in the sky sets the mppd nicely for me.
Models are few & far between Nick,they will sometimes work for prints though if you get the right ones.

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soulofharmony

outstanding and very emotive work...!!!



Nikki !!!

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 7:07 PM

Thanks everyone Smile

Thanks Janet, very good point re the shadow (I've marked as constructive), although I held back a bit on the shadow, as the light as I tried to portray it was misted and diffused slightly, but I could (should) have been bolder with the shadow.

Just noticed the award - Thanks Dave Smile really appreciated

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Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 7:49 PM

I supposed this is only level and curve....LOL
Smile

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 7:51 PM


Quote: I supposed this is only level and curve....LOL
Smile

... of course, its the only bit of Photoshop I know Wink Although I've spent a lot longer on standard Landscapes than I did on this, believe it or not.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10868 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2869 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 8:00 PM

A great tutorial by including the component shots. The finished image has a wonderful other-worldly impression for me. The composite is first rate, and though I see Chase's point, its because you asked for the once over, - Chase obliged with those super sharp eyes, - most would not notice.

The CC is greened.


W

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 8:08 PM

Thanks Willie, thats a compliment, I was trying for a slightly (understated) surreal feel. I was going to include something else, but I will save that for when all the base images are my own (I have one idea brewing at the moment).

I know Janet was being uber critical - I wouldn't expect anything else, and its what I called for, any why I submitted it for "mark as constructive" - the more the merrier. Its the only way to improve is by considered thoughtful critiques.

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dathersmith
4 Sep 2011 - 8:35 PM

Different for you Nick and excellent, looking forward to the rest from this project.

Darren.

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arhb
arhb e2 Member 72276 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
4 Sep 2011 - 8:52 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

This is excellent Nick.
I have often considered membership, just to enable me to upload the individual images that I use for my comp's - which are generally the same - bg, sky and subject, and sometimes with a few flying birds thrown in Smile Paree has often in the past done similar with her comp's, using the variants facility.

I wouldn't say it is that difficult to get willing models to participate in such projects - all the models I've met through 1 year at/on modelmayhem, are actually more interested in projects such as this, as opposed to run-of-the-mill shoots. I then share my choice of the usable shots with those involved(model/mua etc), using a fileshare site like dropbox.

The one thing I have learned is to remember to take all your resource shots, including that of your subject, from the same angle, with an eye on light direction, but these are things I imagine you might have already considered.
I have also found that if I'm photographing models in a studio situation, with a view to using the shots for comp's, a grey bg works best, as it works as the best contrast for most hair colours(blond to black), and produces no colour cast, that can be caused when using green, blue, (and also black or white) bg's.
Look forward to seeing your future projects.

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jeronius
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4 Sep 2011 - 10:26 PM

Stunning.
Jerry

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Daisymaye
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4 Sep 2011 - 10:50 PM

Wonderful to see the shots that make up this lovely image. Certainly gives one ideas. Excellent work...........Sandy

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HectorRivera
5 Sep 2011 - 8:11 AM

Extraordinary image. Love the postprocessing, great compo, excellnet composite work.

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Ian-Munro
Ian-Munro  6200 forum posts Wales15 Constructive Critique Points
5 Sep 2011 - 9:12 AM

Its good to see the images used Nick. I think you have done a great job on the selections, they don't look that rushed to me mate.

All in all good prep for the new venture. I hope to see some great new concepts soon, give me a shout if you need to throw some ideas about.

Ian

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
5 Sep 2011 - 10:19 AM

Thanks everyone. I may just take you up on that offer Ian Wink

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Rollover
Rollover  5 United Kingdom
5 Sep 2011 - 1:32 PM

Outstanding manipulation & processing.
Very jealous of your PS skills! Wink
Such emotion & untold story from a composite.
Nice one.
Take care
Graham

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TrevBatWCC
TrevBatWCC e2 Member 6TrevBatWCC vcard England8 Constructive Critique Points
5 Sep 2011 - 2:03 PM

Well, your PS skills look good to me, Nick! Wink A super piece of work, like it Smile
Trev Smile

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Eviscera
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5 Sep 2011 - 6:52 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Really liking this Nic , and evocative of Yves Lecoq , with the considered vignette , mono approach and three simple elements.

Perhaps a softer blend of the skyline to the horizon to "roll" the depth might improve the ambience a bit.

Good ps work on the model , and as you now have her on a new layer , might be an idea to have a play around with the subjects scale and placement.

You cleverly thought about the scale of the model relating to the grass around her feet, but making her smaller and dropping her further back into the frame , would have created an entirely different mood as well .

Half the size , dead centre still using the leading lines Wink

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derekhansen
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5 Sep 2011 - 8:06 PM

Absolutely superb Nick.
Derek

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
5 Sep 2011 - 10:15 PM

Thanks everyone. Some good points there Dave, I agree the horizon could be more diffuse, something I will bare in mind next time. Interesting putting her bang in the middle - something I did consider as I do like a strong central composition. I have a few more ideas, will take a while as I will be collecting my own images. I already have some stored up.

I did have other ideas to lift this to a new dimension, but I decided to keep those under my hat, for an image all of my own creation.

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Mynett
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5 Sep 2011 - 10:17 PM

very nice compilation, one to be proud of, it was good to see how the images began too, so thank you for sharing

LindaSmile

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DaveU
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6 Sep 2011 - 11:37 PM

Quite simply superb Nick. You've taken three pretty mundane source images and created an image to be really very proud of ..... wish it was mine. Just viewing this on my brand new 24" "professional" monitor and I'm blown away by the quality of the monochrome conversion. If you find any dolly-birds that are willing to be tied up then give me a shout and I'll come along too Smile

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
6 Sep 2011 - 11:48 PM

That's a compliment indeed Dave.

I would have been happier if they had been my own images - next time.


Quote: If you find any dolly-birds that are willing to be tied up then give me a shout and I'll come along too Smile

Thats not a pretty thought Wink Tho I've had no takers to my request so far.

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7 Sep 2011 - 7:57 AM

nice work with photoshop....

inspired me to find a few books on the subject Smile

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
7 Sep 2011 - 9:24 AM

I could always give you some leasons Wink

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newfocus
newfocus  8644 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2011 - 10:09 PM

I think most of the helpful feedback has been said but just to add that years back I read a photoshop compositing tutorial and the key to a convincing result really was to have everything shot in the same way. In addition to the similar direction and quality of light that's been mentioned, the focal length and dof of the shot need to match for best possible results, e.g. model shot with a mid/telephoto lens against a wide angle landscape will tend to look a little like a cardboard cutout whereas similar focal lengths will be more natural/convincing.

I'll paste a link if I can find it again - looking forward to seeing more.

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73882 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2011 - 10:50 AM

Thanks John, composites are relatively new to me so all advice gratefully received.

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HowardA
HowardA  7231 forum posts
21 Sep 2011 - 11:11 AM

Well done Nick - you underplay your skills!!
Howard

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NobbytheNobster

Wow this really is a great and inspirational image.
Very well done indeed.
Rick

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illuvator
illuvator  3 United Kingdom
4 Nov 2011 - 10:36 PM

this is far better

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Nick_w
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4 Nov 2011 - 11:22 PM

Thanks Mark

I would be interested to find out why you prefer this Mark, all I would say is check the monitor calibration - as the other image has an awful lot of detail in the light tones - I only know because I had to recalibrate the laptop as it looked completely different from the main PC. The other image was processed to have an ethereal feel.

For those not sure this is the image Mark refers to.

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