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thank you for your clicks and comments for the bluetit, and to Ron for his observations. I'll try my best to improve, the more I ry myself to take some bird pictures the more I see how much effort and practise goes into your shots... got a lot to learn!

I was bitterly cold and overcast most of the day, but there is only one sunday in the week, so I'd better use it Smile
This robin clearly heard the camera click and went into a 'meerkat' pose - checking closer in V2
now V2 is reduced in LR, V1 in PS.. still haven't worked out what produces less noise !

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D2X Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:Nikkor AI 500.0 mm f/4.0 Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:29 Jan 2012 - 4:01 PM
Focal Length:500mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0
Aperture:f/6.3
Shutter Speed:1/640sec
Exposure Comp:-2/3
ISO:800
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Flash:No Flash
Title:what's that noise?
Username:annettep38 annettep38
Uploaded:29 Jan 2012 - 11:38 PM
Tags:Bird, Humour/fun, Robin, Wildlife / nature
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saeidNL
saeidNL  4 Netherlands3 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2012 - 11:47 PM

Two Lovely capture,well done,
saeid

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4139 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland111 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 12:43 AM

I rather like that self assured legs akimbo stance in V 2, Annette.
I'm not certain to what your title refers but could it be to having to use an ISO of 800 and the consequences thereof, or perhaps something totally different. Hope that observation does not cause offence.
Ronnie.

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taggart
taggart e2 Member 1042 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 12:49 AM

A curious little bird--- love the RUSTY color!

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Ayoob
Ayoob e2 Member 3Ayoob vcard Australia
30 Jan 2012 - 1:29 AM

Two beautiful shot with excellent detail and presentation ,Annette -well done.........Grin

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gajewski
gajewski e2 Member 10gajewski vcard United States9 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 3:02 AM

Wonderful shot -- great title as well.
-=\Walter

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Chinga
Chinga e2 Member 3Chinga vcard United Kingdom
30 Jan 2012 - 5:35 AM

Ahhh ... So very cute! Well captured IB

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zapar40
zapar40  466 forum posts Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 6:08 AM

their inquisitive stance captured so well. v2 would get double votes from me.
nice one, ant.

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SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64430 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 6:09 AM

How sweet. Looks like you've told him to stand up tall in V1. Smile Charming shots.
Chris

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece17 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 6:33 AM

A wonderful stretch in V.1, Annette, well captured. Do you have a noiseware program, NeatImage is worth a try. Carol

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brownsilent
brownsilent e2 Member 7brownsilent vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 7:48 AM

Two good captures, looks like he heard your camera clicking! Smile
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Brian65
Brian65 e2 Member 5Brian65 vcard United Kingdom
30 Jan 2012 - 9:48 AM

Its a perky Robin, it knew you were after a shot Annette. Try in PS the filter reduce noise, it helps a bit.
Brian

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EAS
EAS  5 Scotland13 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 1:09 PM

I've seen birds taking up this stance when there's been gunshots around (people out hunting here in the countryside) so clearly a sense of alarm. I think there's a bit more noise in V2 on this screen. V1 gets my vote anyway though I know what a challenge this type of image is to capture and am impressed by both efforts!

Ann

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LexEquine
LexEquine  8 United States19 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 2:17 PM

'Two superlative, artistic, & lovely Robin captures,' Annette~

v2 is a real cracker~ Smile

~ Peter

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twelvemegs
30 Jan 2012 - 2:32 PM

Two wonderful captures Annette.

At 800 ISO there is going to be some noise.

Iíve uploaded mods using Lightroom 3 to remove noise.

David

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Len1950
Len1950 e2 Member 4Len1950 vcard England
30 Jan 2012 - 2:48 PM

Lovely captures Annette.

Len

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Maiwand
Maiwand e2 Member 7Maiwand vcard England69 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 3:00 PM

[quote]A wonderful stretch in V.1, Annette, well captured. Do you have a noiseware program, NeatImage is worth a try. Carol[/quote
Somewhat better than last time Annette. Your camera settings seem to be reasonably OK. You could try reducing the ISO although I would have thought that the D2 could manage 800 without too much problem. What programme do you use to manipulate the shots ?
I agree with trying Neat Image.
Ron

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jonwebber
jonwebber  6 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2012 - 5:42 PM

Wonderful photography.
jon

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HeathMcDonald
30 Jan 2012 - 8:05 PM

Great shot Annette, like the pose of the V1.

I am a Neat image user for higher ISO and found it to be very good, looking at the stats I wonder whether at ISO800 and Tx 1/640 whether there was actually some scope to reduce the ISO, possibly 400, this will reduce the noise quite a bit. You can also try pushing the histogram to the right by adding some positive exposure compensation, say plus 0.5, lighter images will generally produce less noise.

By the way, many thanks for the user award on the Common Darter image, it was very much appreciated indeed. Grin

Heath

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banehawi Critique Team 10866 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2862 Constructive Critique Points
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Depending on what version of Photoshop you have, and LR, they may be exactly the same in terms of thier noise reduction ability. LR3 is quite good.

In you images, ALL noise has been removed from the sky, showing that both approaches had an effect, however it doesnt look like you were aggressive enough. You need to practice more, especially on te Luminance channel in LR.

The mods are quite good, though perhaps just a little too much detail is lost, BUT this can be the downside of high ISO.

Another approach, and you can download a trial version for free is to try Neat Image of Noise Ninja, third party programmes that specialize in noise reduction, - might give you a better result.

Your setting are good, - though maybe you could have been able to NOT use negative exposure comp, and noise will be most apparent in an image that underexposed. It would be more "norma;" shooting against the sky to use positive exposure compensation to ensure the bird was exposed properly.


I will upload a mod with exposure increased by one full stop, and use Noise Ninja to reduce noise as an example. remember, the idea here is that an brighter exposure is likely to show less noise.



regards



Willie

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PaulLiley  5 United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
31 Jan 2012 - 10:45 PM

Love the pose of V1. Nice work. paul

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Shellio
Shellio  3 United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
2 Feb 2012 - 6:56 PM

Your really caught the pose in this one Annette, something a bit different and stands out very well.
Shell

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13 Feb 2012 - 9:52 PM

A delightful image of this tall, thin, long legged robin, he's the complete opposite of most robins that I see

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