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I saw Paul's infra red images, I quite like them..I tried to push my previous photo towards them, but to the wrong directionGrin...I tried channel mixer on this one, but I realised that I couldn't really get the effect, because my tree is red, rather than green...I wonder if it's OK as B&W,without blurring the image.

I'm still struggling to correct the this church's perspective, as I was on previous uploading. I tried vertical perspective -5, slightly rotated a bit on this B&W one,but I think the tower is leaning..http://www.peakdistrictinformation.com/visits/wirksch.php
I'll upload the colour version (without perspective correction), from the coloured one, I changed Red:177;Green146;Blue-200. Can the red tree achieve the green tree's infra red effect? You are welcome to have a trySmile.
All comments, criticisms&MODs are welcome.Thank you.
jasmine

Camera:Canon EOS 50D
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Focal Length:28mm
Aperture:f/9.9
Shutter Speed:1/395sec
ISO:125
Title:Wirksworth church
Username:xwang xwang
Uploaded:28 Apr 2011 - 5:05 PM
Tags:Architecture, Black & white, Church, Digitally manipulated, Trees
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andylea
andylea  537 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 5:19 PM

like both of these jasmine wonderful work on v1 brilliant colour v2 nice ones Wink
andy

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saeidNL
saeidNL  4 Netherlands3 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 6:09 PM

Beautiful set of images,V1 is for me,
saeid

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Len1950
Len1950 e2 Member 4Len1950 vcard England
28 Apr 2011 - 6:41 PM

Now this one I like in the colour version, nice composition and excellent colour.

Len

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pamelajean Critique Team 8769 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1599 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 9:00 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

V1 brings out the lovely details of the church's architecture, Jasmine, but I do like the colour version too. The grass is very white in your mono, just in front of the church, but I do like what you have done here. I notice you have cropped both sides, but quite like the composition of the original. However, I think I would clone out the little bit of tree on the left frame in V1. There is strong light on the right of the spire, which adds to the illusion of a lean, and the light is the same on the website picture you linked us to. I took your picture into PSP and the spire looks straight enough to me, so well done. I also think another part of the illusion of a lean is made by the "thing" on top of the spire (don't know what it is) because it is placed over to the right.
Pamela.

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Rock e2 Member 12Rock vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 9:21 PM

Both excellent shots with v/g detail and the subject shown a perfect position.

I always feel your work should be shown in the main gallery and not the critique section .

Rock

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NeilWigan e2 Member 4NeilWigan vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 9:24 PM

lots of good work coming from you Jasmine,V2 i like colour.thanks for your good wishes.

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xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
28 Apr 2011 - 10:13 PM

Thank you very much Pamela.Smile,I'm always struggling to correct the perspective..
From the composition point of view, I suppose to crop off the tree on the left.(I thought when I 'pull' the church 'up' it would be lost anyway) I think the crop of both sides is due to the -5 vertical perspective. I kept the tree on the left to provide a comparison between green leaves and the red ones. I couldn't turn the red leaves into white colour. The grass became white, because it was(is) green.Smile
Thank you all for your kind comments and support.
Jasmine

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pdcche  4 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2011 - 11:27 PM

Two lovely shots Jasmine, like the mono shot, but the other is nice also.. Peter

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom854 Constructive Critique Points
29 Apr 2011 - 7:55 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hello Jasmine,

Good effort - nice to see people trying something different and a good subject for pseudo infra red. I have put a mod in above - my problem being to work on the tiny net image which is already heavily jpeg treated. Your problem is too much green and yellow causing the grass to burn out completely. Watch the image as you adjust the sliders. You say -200 blue - but the sky had not gone very dark - but was quite bland in the first place.

The channel mixer does the job, but you need more control of colours as that sky is very cyan rather than blue due to mist. Do you have Photoshop with the black and white processing tool - as in my CS3. That allows modification of cyans, yellows and magentas as well as the three primaries. In my mod I reduced cyan to -200. Unfortunately the sky has pixellated, but would not have done so on the full resolution original.

Paul

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ccb  626 forum posts United States2 Constructive Critique Points
29 Apr 2011 - 11:48 AM

Jasmine, love both of these so much - so sharp and well composed! I guess I prefer v2 just because of the color, but v1 has an elegance to it that v2 doesn't. Really fine shots.
Christina

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xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
29 Apr 2011 - 3:54 PM

Hello Paul,
Thank you soo...oo much for telling me how to get it right. Grin The coloured one was HDR image. I wasn't going to use it to do anything, only trying to find out what it looks like under the very bright light condition, maybe that's why you noticed the sky's colour, and difficult to do MOD ...
I suddenly thought of your infrared images again yesterday and decided to give another try. I didn't go to the original folder,(being lazyGrin),I picked up the coloured HDR,actually not better than the single photo,Smile but I simply wanted to try infra red. The HDR one actually gave me a bad sky...
I used the single photo, this time:
Red:300; Yellow:117; Green:130; Cyans:-200; Blue:-200; Magcatas:284.
I didn't see much change by adjusting Magcatas,but I noticed the top of the tree became lighter when I turned to 'right', so I settled it at 284.
Thank you very much again, if I got this one right, that means I learned something new from you,ha.ha...glad to learn from youWink
Thank you Christina, your 3D image is brilliant.
Jasmine

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davey_griffo
30 Apr 2011 - 7:30 PM

You have controled the contrast much better in this shot than your previous post. I rather like this.
I like the infra-red effect you've created too. I think the problem with the larger tree to the right is that the leaves are so dark. You were never going to make the glow white.

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PaulLiley  5 United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
2 May 2011 - 8:31 AM

Like the mono but some good advice from Paul above. I think he has hit the nail on the head. Some good thoughts for me too when tackling this kind of pic. Love the composition though. Paul

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