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MalcolmS
Malcolm Shucksmith
The photo was taken at Lodore Falls near Derwentwater in the Lake District I've always taken photographs since my parents bought me a Kodak Brownie 127 Kit in 19**. To date I have gone to places and taken some shots whilst I have been there, now I want to go place...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 13:02
MalcolmS (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site
I am soon to go on a three week trip around China. I don't want to lug an L glass zoom around with me and am thinking of getting a cheaper zoom to take with me.
I have been looking at a Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM amongst others, but all the reviews i read fall back on telling me how good L glass is in comparison which is no good to me.
Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on the above or could suggest any other lenses.
I have a 40D with a Sigma 10-20mm and a Canon 17-85mm which are currently going with me.
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 13:41
The siggie 70-300 is dirt cheap , check ebay i beieve they do some different models the one wtih the better glass is the one to go for.cant remeber if its APO or something like that in the name , one of me mates has one and its pretty damn good considering it was 80 quid 2nd hand
Overread
Alex
Started photography in the winter of 2007 with my first camera a 400D and its kit lens and dreams of photographing wildlife. A year on and I still have the same camera and dreams, though now with a few more (and better) lenses. Photography has bitten me hard and its go...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 13:59
Overread (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 1 Years on the site
The sigma 70-300mm macro (1:2) APO is the more advanced version and does give an improved result over the 70-300mm macro (1:2).
However it is a dirt cheap lens in all respects (well built though - not L grade, but good enough) and I belive the canon 70-300mm beats it in quality.
I have noticed especially at 300mm, when focusing on further off subjects the sigma does degrade in sharpness noticably (past 6m or so) Its something to bare in mind
Further if you are using L glass now you will certainly see the degrade in quality with the sigma -
Barbaraj
Barbara J Bone
I have just bought a Pentax K100D, in January 2007, but was using a Pentax Optio S50. So the move to an SLR is a big learing curve, and I hope to gain some better understanding through ephotozine. Pentax K 100D with 18 -35 Lens SMCPentax DA 50-200mm F4-5.6 ED Have ...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:12
Barbaraj (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 2 Years on the site 2 Years on the site
Can I ask , is there a difference between the Sigma 70 -300 APO macro and the Sigma 105 macro. Would the Sigma 105 be a better macro lens?
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Alex
Started photography in the winter of 2007 with my first camera a 400D and its kit lens and dreams of photographing wildlife. A year on and I still have the same camera and dreams, though now with a few more (and better) lenses. Photography has bitten me hard and its go...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:26
Overread (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 1 Years on the site
The sigma 70-300mm is not a true macro lens - its a telephoto zoom lens with a close focusing feature that allows magnification of 1:2 at around 0.5m - which is a deceptivly long mimimum distance. Its also what I would call a tripod macro lens - not good for handheld macro. Interestingly its 300mm focal length (where macro activates - between 200-300mm) gives it a great background blur effect and the lens does very well as a plant close up shooter - giving good results in this area. ( I would say its this lenses fortae)
insect example:
link

The sigma 105mm macro though is a true macro prime lens, so it has serveral advantages - firstly it is true macro, which means 1:1 magnification; further it has a much closer working distance, small and fiddly, but truer; in addition as its a true macro prime lens is it far sharper than the 70-300mm which is a budget lens. The quality of this lens is also on par with the canon 100mm macro.
Example:
link

note not fishing - can change to photobucket links if required

If you are serious about macro then nothing beats a good macro prime lens - though I would go for the sigma 150mm macro personally, as this lens will combine with both 1.4 and 2 times teleconverters from sigma to deliver a longer focal length (with corresponding smaller depth of field - very fiddly) with the increased background blur effect.
I belive the sigma 105mm will work with the Kenko teleconverters, but it will not work with the sigma edition
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MalcolmS
Malcolm Shucksmith
The photo was taken at Lodore Falls near Derwentwater in the Lake District I've always taken photographs since my parents bought me a Kodak Brownie 127 Kit in 19**. To date I have gone to places and taken some shots whilst I have been there, now I want to go place...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:47
MalcolmS (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site
So has no-one any experience of the Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM, which is the one I have been looking at?
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Alex
Started photography in the winter of 2007 with my first camera a 400D and its kit lens and dreams of photographing wildlife. A year on and I still have the same camera and dreams, though now with a few more (and better) lenses. Photography has bitten me hard and its go...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:51
Overread (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 1 Years on the site
Sorry - only the sigma 70-300mm here - might want to wait around till 5-6pm for the those with jobs to get in I am sure we will have some users of that lens on the site!
conrad
C Heijdemann
BACKGROUND & EQUIPMENT: I'm an interpreter/[http://www.lookuppage.com/users/coenraadheijdemann/]translator[/link] from the Netherlands. As a teen, I printed my own b&w pics. After a long 'break' I shoot everything now, including colour. I've upgraded from a Canon EO...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:53
conrad (Critique Team) View Mini Bio Netherlands 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site
Not personally or on my own camera, but I briefly handled it on the camera of another photographer and was quite impressed. Handles well, is relatively small, and the other photographer was very happy with it. But do read this review as well, because the reviewer clearly suggests you might be (almost) just as well off buying the other Canon lens.

Edit: Oh, oops, I thought you meant the DO. You didn't. Well, in that case the review is in your favour. Relevant review here.
MalcolmS
Malcolm Shucksmith
The photo was taken at Lodore Falls near Derwentwater in the Lake District I've always taken photographs since my parents bought me a Kodak Brownie 127 Kit in 19**. To date I have gone to places and taken some shots whilst I have been there, now I want to go place...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:57
MalcolmS (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site
Thanks Conrad, you beat me to it with your edit. This review did put me off the DO version.
conrad
C Heijdemann
BACKGROUND & EQUIPMENT: I'm an interpreter/[http://www.lookuppage.com/users/coenraadheijdemann/]translator[/link] from the Netherlands. As a teen, I printed my own b&w pics. After a long 'break' I shoot everything now, including colour. I've upgraded from a Canon EO...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 14:58
conrad (Critique Team) View Mini Bio Netherlands 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site 5 Years on the site
In the review of the lens you mention, I quite like the statement that it's almost a hidden L Lens.
MalcolmS
Malcolm Shucksmith
The photo was taken at Lodore Falls near Derwentwater in the Lake District I've always taken photographs since my parents bought me a Kodak Brownie 127 Kit in 19**. To date I have gone to places and taken some shots whilst I have been there, now I want to go place...
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 15:07
MalcolmS (e2 Member) View Mini Bio England 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site 4 Years on the site
I
Quote:
quite like the statement that it's almost a hidden L Lens

This is encouraging, looks like I might have dropped on the best around already
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 15:16
I have this lens. for the price range it performs well. It is a long way from L build quality and also lacks the performance at extremes of an L ie wide open and/or 300mm. It doesn't get a lot of use by me as I'm not a long focal length fan. Benefits are it is light, and a lot of range and IS for your cash, IQ is certainly on par with it's cost.

I'll PM you some shots in my folio that are taken with it.
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 15:21
Highjacker!! whats I.Q. mean?
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 15:24
Quote:
Highjacker!! whats I.Q. mean?

Intelligence Quotient, as it is a sharp lens
Posted: 20 Aug 2008 - 15:25
Cheers , bloody obvious really
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