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Kukulkán
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Kukulkán by PatrickSmith
Since Mexico's archaeological site, Chichen Itza does not allow tripods or photos taken near sunrise or sunset, once again all I will say about how I got this photo was that is was hand held at mid day, LOL!
Backlighting provided by a very large cumulonimbus cloud behind and to the left of the camera! I waited behind a building (out of sight of the guards) for quite a while until the light was right.
The Kukulkan Pyramid at Chichen Itza was a terraced monument as opposed to being a true pyramid form such as we see in Egypt. There were reasons for this departure from Egyptian architectural practice because in the West, pyramids convey specific numbers which can enable us to see why they were built where they were upon the earth. This is how you decode the longitude of this structure. (Based on the Great Pyramid at Giza, Egypt being at longitude zero.) 9 terraces x 365 steps x 4 sides x 4 stairways = 52,560 The structure's longitude (based on Giza, not Greenwich) is 119 degrees west, 42 minutes and 10.51620648 seconds. Those numbers multiply out to 52559.99998704 A coincidence? Or did they somehow know exactly where this structure was located in relation to Giza? One of the world's most puzzling mysteries I suppose!
My take: They probably didn't calculate in degrees back then, so it probably is a coincidence. That and maybe a little numerological 'dry labbing!'
This structure was built by the Toltecs around 1200ad. The Mayans were driven out after building structures here for about 600 years. Today, the Mayans are the main group of people living in this area.
1.6 second exposure @F16 with ND grad 0.6
| Date Added: | 10 Jul 2006 - 13:53 |
| Camera: | Canon 5D |
| Lens: | Canon 17-40L @35 |
| Film: | RAW ISO 100 |
| Categories: | Architecture General Landscape / Travel |
| Tags: | kukulkan el castillo chichen itza |
| Readers' Votes: | 143 |

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Stunning details in this!
Spot on exposure!
Jouko

Many thanks for the really interesting info too!
Best wishes,
George.
Very moody, powerful and with a timeless feel. AND no other tourists in the shot...result!
Mike

Lovely
Carri
Lovely
Carri

Peter

. . . . intersting location and a great job Patrick! . .
Mike.W

Brian......
CLIX
Steve, you could be right. With so many myths and legends going around, (like the DaVinci code), you never know.
LOL Mike (Bonsall), yes there were no other tourists for some curious reason. Maybe they all had lunch at the same time!
Carri, isn't that the greatest Hotel or what?
You are right Peter.....
Yes Mike.W, that is exactly what happened. LOL - At such a southerly latitude, the sun finally rose at noon!
Thanks Tony. I wish I could get an award for hand holding this for 1.6 seconds - LOL!
Patrick


My take: They probably didn't calculate in degrees back then, so it probably is a coincidence....
Having said that, even if they didn't use degrees, whatever method they did use would have to equate to our methods given that neither structure would have moved since then.
Do you know what I mean?
So why do they not allow tripods or photos at that time?
Paul
Paul, they do not allow tripods because (paraphraising their words) they do not want professional photographers making commercial quality photographs and selling them for a profit!
I know what you mean about the methods. And longitude is a very difficult thing to figure out and was only done recently by western civilization. Even if they knew how to do it, how did they 'remember' the position of Giza?
Patrick
The planning that went into some of these structures is pretty amazing.

Another stunning image! Banning the tripods doesn't seem to work. Amazing buildning, amazing shot. Love your work! Great description btw.
Paul, I think that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. People's IQ's are basically the same as they were thousands of years ago. So people could have figured out many complex ideas and systems. The thing about this is that they took thousands of years to migrate from anywhere near the pyramids, over Alaska, and down to Mexico. All while remembering the exact position of Giza? I'm not sure if that is possible considering that they had to struggle to survive each and every day. Or maybe there was an 'across the Atlantic' connection. The tradewinds do blow directly here from Africa.
Benjamin (zebhylon), banning them does work somewhat. It did stop me from getting most of the shots I wanted. I won't go into too much detail about that!
Patrick
Lizzie

Martin


Alistair.-)
SB

Brilliant work as always and expected, hats off to you! Spot on! Click!!!Greg

Jennnnnnnnnnnnn
True Lyns, we may never know the truth about this. Most evidence was destroyed by Spanish Catholics trying to preserve the faith.
Me too Ann. Can't get enough....
Yes Alistair, that is why I believe that the truth lies in the middle most fo the time.
LOL Greg, keep your hat on in case it floods again!
Alan, it is a great place to visit for sure.
Go Jennnnnnnnnnn, you won't regret it! There weren't even very many Mosquitoes.
Patrick


For me the image is interesting in a way, but a touch flat...some light on the building would have been a nice touch.
Sorry Keith, the guards were on the other side. So this is where I had to be, if you know what I mean. Still, the cloud helped with some decent backlighting.
This is truly an exciting place for photography, if they will just let you do it!
Patrick

Honestly though, another fab one. Went to Tulum a while ago but that really was at mid day, so nothing like this...as if I had a hope of creating something like this, lol - but you know what I mean!
Hope you had a great hol
Sweetpea

Oh .... pyramid shot not bad either !!
Dave.

Although, I must say, they were very professional and once they realized we weren't transporting drugs, they were quite nice and sent us on our way with friendly smiles. -=Walter


Jim
You can always "prove" anything by applying what appear to be rules. One of the best examples is the so-called 'hidden messages' in the bible.


An excellent shot under the circumstances.
The pyramid is nicely placed in relation to the FG wall. Great image.
Brian

Nice light and detail, a good opportunist? shot.
I'm off to Peru in September so hope to get some similar shots of dawn at Machu Pichu
Malcolm

An excellent photo of this gorgeous monument.
Thanks a lot for the description, really fantastic.
Cheers, Jan
I don't know what you mean Sweetpea! You could do this any time... if you are a fast runner!
Hi Walter. I saw your message, but I can't get it to run. I'll try later and PM. I didn't see any official cars on the road for the whole time I was there. Just HUGE speed bumps (topes)!
Yes Chris, they have superb midday skies there!
True Jim, you can prove anything if you fudge the numbers enough! LOL - In fact, in this photo, if you remove certain specific pixels, you will see the face of the devil!
True Brian, it did not start out that way, but it does have that sort of feel to it.
True Malcolm. And fortunately they will let you take shots any time at Machu Pichu. A photographer friend is also going I think in September.
Dan... um I mean Patrick


Janet

Mark.
Yes Mark, it is a little frustrating. There are SO many great angles and perspectives that you could get here. But you can't climb on the buildings or basically do anything at any decent time of day....legally!
Ian, normally you'd be right, but the upper left side is actually darker because of how they have cleaned the building of grass and moss. See this image taken obviously without a ND grad from the same angle in the middle of the day. Also this was taken a few years ago when people could walk up there. It is even more dark on the upper side now. Also, I angled the 0.6 at a 45 degree angle just on the upper right side to darken the sky only. But I may get some blending filters as they look quite useful.
Patrick
Chris
Still needs some light on it.
;p
John
stay well
tonymarq

Yes Ian,the whole top gets covered in just a few years and then they have to clear it off. Yes, maybe someday I'll apply to the Mexican government to take some 'legal' shots of this place. For now, I'll settle for reflected light, rather than the light on the inside of a Mexican jail interrogation room!
Actually John, I came way closer than you may realize. I won't go into details, as I may want to return!
Patrick

Doug
MikeA.


I had a similar problem with tripods not being allowed recently. Was a one off commission to shoot a shopping centre in Birmingham. I wanted to blur the crowds and use about 0.5-1.6 sec exposure. I bought a bean bag (the pod made in Canada) and problem solved. Best little gadget i have bought in ages.
Looking forward to your next posting.
Ben



C
I know that it may have led to confiscation of equipment ( and possibly worse...) but I sure would like to have seen a little light on the pyramid. Still its a really nice image as is so I hope you dont think thats too harsh.
russ
C'mon Sweetpea, get out there and jump through some hoops for us or something!
Sorry about the headache Ian - LOL!
Ben? In a shopping centre? Beanbag... great idea!
Bruce? Outwitting whom? Not me! It's just another hand held shot at mid day.
Good idea to back off Russ! Yes, I'd like to have gone to the other side, or been in this spot at sunrise, but NO WAY! And there is an awesome shot just behind this if you are allowed to go up the stairs of the structure. Actually, the last bit is sunlight was hitting the upper right section, but maybe when I adjusted the curves, it became darker. I'll probably adjust it.
Patrick
If you can drag that bit of light out it'll really tip the scale, good luck with it.
Russ


;o)
Ted

Charlotte
Thanks for the comments on the bug shots, for some reason the A75 is a good little camera!
Russ, I had another look and I got the light back into it. The print looks much better! Yes, You can apply to the Mexican overnment for a special pass. I'm not sure what it woudl take and based on what you said, maybe I'll pass!
John (yjjeep), me too!
Yes Ted, the Mexican sun barely seems to rise much above the horizon at this time of your for some reason - LOL!
Yes it is Charlotte. But don't forget your big one though.
Patrick

Ben

Kris.
Thanks Ben, I can see where they would come in handy. Congrats on the commission too.
LOL - Kris. If I did indeed shoot this at mid day as I am officially claiming, I would certainly need one. So um...yes, it was a sunset filter that produced that sky!
Patrick

Lovely picture.
Georg

Atu
No, haven't done the 1200 yet. First I'll have to pump up at the gym
Doug.

Keith

Jeanie
You know, it's funny - I was just curious to find out when was the last time one of your pictures scored less than 100
. I started looking back and then notice that one the very first page (most recent) you had a picture (The slot v 0.000) which was at 99, so I had to help it along
, but besides that one I had to go back 3 pages before I found one. Congrats on spectacular photography!!BTW, I just remembered that you were selling some prints in a cafe or something - how's that going? Are you quitting the database gig yet??
Cheers
Mike
Yes Georg, what did they know back then? I'm not sure, and most of the informatinon was destroyed when the Catholics from Spain tried to corner the market on religion in the Yucatan. But hindsight is always better than perfect when looking for correlations in old data.
LOL Verne, it's time for big glass for you!
LOL - No...not v1.000000.... Bad Mike... very bad! But thanks for the encouragement. Yes, I had some framed prints up in a local photo store. None sold, but few ever sell there. None in many months. But later this year I'm going to have a booth at a local art and wine festival and we'll see how it goes. I have been selling them just by word of mouth. Will I ever go pro? Well, I would love to get out of the intensity of programming but the cause (birth defects) is a good one. Maybe someday. For now, it is just for fun and I'm accumulating a lot of decent shots now. Many I don't have on EPZ or on my website yet.
Sten, thanks for appreciating how steady my hands are - LOL!
Patrick
Well done Patrick...
Cesie

Bill
LOL - Um... yes Bill. Considering it was mid day, I was quite lucky to have the place all to myself. Maybe everybody was having lunch!
Patrick
Ian.
Keep'em coming.
Denis

Joe
Cracking shot
Chicken Tree Sunset man
john
Ian, It is just the time of day. There were no people there then. Can't say why though or they won't let me back in again! Toulm is quite impressive up on that bluff. And I could ony get in during the day so I could nto get any empty shots or good light there.
John, they have a lot of work to do still!
Patrick

this is a stunning shot great composition and the colour is awsome
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john
John, it was taken back in June. Now you can't climb on any of the structures and you can't be ther near sunrise or sunset.
Thanks Elizabeth (starliz)!
Patrick
BTW, GREAT SHOT


This monument looks majestic against that Beautiful sky, P!
I'm only about 6 months late in commenting....

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Great capture
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chelseak