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Taken at Beamish Musuem, a stage coach burnt and left to remind us what times were once like.I used a texture on this image. I feel however that the stage coach needs to stand out more, but not quite sure how to do it. I may be wrong. Have tried the tool-burn in photoshop and level.What do you think?
1/30sec, f/11, ISO 100, Focal length 26.3

Camera:Pentax K20D Check out PENTAXPORTAL!
Lens:Pentax 18-55mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:By gone days
Username:abesad abesad
Uploaded:25 Aug 2009 - 10:20 PM
Tags:Digital art, General, Landscape / travel
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miptog
miptog e2 Member 93532 forum postsmiptog vcard United Kingdom61 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2009 - 10:38 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Trying reducing the brightness of the water, and then dramatically increasing contrast using curves.

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26 Aug 2009 - 11:28 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I think the difficulty you have got here Susan is that the green in the background and foreground is so bright and saturated that it is drawing attention away from the cart which looks dull in comparison. I would go back to the original shot and avoid saturating those areas. Then see if you can increase the contrast of the cart.

I have uploaded a mod for you where I have tried to improve the shot but it is probably not very successful. I think you need ot go back to your original shot, if you still have it.

Bes twishes

Catherine

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NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2009 - 5:03 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

hello.
i think you have a super setting here and a very interesting subject that i guess you probably recorded very well at the taking.

the problem for me is that you have embarked on a series of techiques without a record above such that its pretty hard to say what has been done so far.

what has probably happened is progressive break down of a lossy medium such as j peg when the use of tiff here would have been more beneficial.

i think that the image would have looked better as a sepia toned mono to enhance the feeling of age or the subtle hand toning to simulate a hand coloured image that one may have seen many years ago. im not sure that you can ever get a stunning result now you have shopped it so far and im not sure that the arty border provides full justice to the image.

well im working blind and i dont have ps here at the moment but my hunch is to start in hue and sat, go to the channels at the top and reduce the saturation of the yellow channel slider and that will take some of the sting out of the greens.

then try a look in layers make a dup layer and open the channels. look in each and see where the noise is showing the most in the red,green or blue and on the worst add a little surface blur that will smooth it out a bit, then flatten.

then go levels and bring the arrows in to each end of the graph to get a full range of tones.

then set the burn tool to shadows at 2% opacity and burn in the carriage gently on a new layer so that you can pull it back after if reqd.

then if it all fails just go for a lovely faded sepia because it would be just gorgeous without all the fiddly stuff.

best regards,
Phil

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abesad
abesad e2 Member 5abesad vcard Scotland
26 Aug 2009 - 5:20 PM


Quote: I think the difficulty you have got here Susan is that the green in the background and foreground is so bright and saturated that it is drawing attention away from the cart which looks dull in comparison. I would go back to the original shot and avoid saturating those areas. Then see if you can increase the contrast of the cart.

I have uploaded a mod for you where I have tried to improve the shot but it is probably not very successful. I think you need ot go back to your original shot, if you still have it.

Bes twishes

Catherine

Thanks, am going back to original shot, and start again.

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abesad e2 Member 5abesad vcard Scotland
26 Aug 2009 - 5:21 PM

[quote]Hello.
i think you have a super setting here and a very interesting subject that i guess you probably recorded very well at the taking.

the problem for me is that you have embarked on a series of techiques without a record above such that its pretty hard to say what has been done so far.

what has probably happened is progressive break down of a lossy medium such as j peg when the use of tiff here would have been more beneficial.

i think that the image would have looked better as a sepia toned mono to enhance the feeling of age or the subtle hand toning to simulate a hand coloured image that one may have seen many years ago. im not sure that you can ever get a stunning result now you have shopped it so far and im not sure that the arty border provides full justice to the image.

well im working blind and i dont have ps here at the moment but my hunch is to start in hue and sat, go to the channels at the top and reduce the saturation of the yellow channel slider and that will take some of the sting out of the greens.

then try a look in layers make a dup layer and open the channels. look in each and see where the noise is showing the most in the red,green or blue and on the worst add a little surface blur that will smooth it out a bit, then flatten.

then go levels and bring the arrows in to each end of the graph to get a full range of tones.

then set the burn tool to shadows at 2% opacity and burn in the carriage gently on a new layer so that you can pull it back after if reqd.

then if it all fails just go for a lovely faded sepia because it would be just gorgeous without all the fiddly stuff.

best regards,
Phil[/quote

Thanks, have been using RAW and tiff, but as said to cath, will go back and start again, maybe black&white or sepia would be best. May put it on here later and see what you all think.
Thanks

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