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A lovey waterfall near Bolton Abbey

Not so great yesterday as the spray from the falls covered the filters in seconds, and there's a tree fallen in front of my favourite spot to take a shot from !

this is the middle section from a 5 shot HDR PANO believe it or not.

The pano seemed a good idea, but I could not get a composition I was happy with - a lot of the shot seemed irrelevent, so I cropped and cropped and decided to go square in the end.

Camera:Canon EOS 5D
Lens:17-40
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Valley Of Desolation
Username:ade_mcfade ade_mcfade
Uploaded:7 Dec 2008 - 8:07 PM
Tags:Bolton abbey, Landscape / travel, Valley of desolaion, Waterfall, Yorkshire
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motorsportpictures

beautiful capture...
scott

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Bravdo
Bravdo  6 United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
7 Dec 2008 - 8:09 PM

Shot works for me..Great composition and i think the lighting is just right..
Barry

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grockleJB
grockleJB  5 United Kingdom
7 Dec 2008 - 8:12 PM

lovely shot, John

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KBan
KBan  9457 forum posts England4 Constructive Critique Points
7 Dec 2008 - 8:16 PM

a cracker Ade. like the light, colours and exposure.
keith

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RobboB
RobboB e2 Member 777 forum postsRobboB vcard United Kingdom
7 Dec 2008 - 8:24 PM

Worth the effort. Reckon B&W would be good too

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newfocus
newfocus  8644 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
7 Dec 2008 - 8:59 PM

The colours in the rock really make the shot for me.

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markthecat
7 Dec 2008 - 9:13 PM

Stunning

Mark

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colin63
colin63  6 England
7 Dec 2008 - 9:22 PM

Lovely

Colin

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User_Removed
7 Dec 2008 - 10:32 PM

nice capture. lovely picture..

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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England210 Constructive Critique Points
7 Dec 2008 - 10:54 PM

Like the details and tones in this Ade.
Regards Richard.

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Scottishlandscapes
Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 1068 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 10:20 AM

I think you did well with the crop Ade, the contrast is still not quite right though. A hard one to make a call on here, but the image is good, maybe a wee bit more effort after a rest.

Dougie

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ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014844 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 10:39 AM

cheers Dougie

well you saw the original and that's where I started from Wink A very very flat tone map.

where'd you suggest needs the attention - the top area where it's bright?

Kinda think that having that "really bright" constrast is a double edge sword.

When you're there, it looks ace, but in processing you really have a nightmare to sort out.

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Maddie
Maddie  92714 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 1:27 PM

looks a pretty place Ade

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digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 1:35 PM

I like the gold tones picked out in the water and on the cliff at the right. I think the contrast is a little too strong (or too much sharpening) on the plants to our left of the falls.

I know from experience of this place that it is virtually impossible on a bright day to sort out the sky. You got pretty close with this one, I think if you could just burn in that golden tree a touch it would benefit.

Ian

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 2:45 PM

Just starting to catch up. have visited the last couple i missed.like yesterdays, its like a scene from when dinasors ruled the earth, the HDR is not working in your favour to my mind and there was too much ambient light for a waterfall shot, and also too much water flowing for best results, before the sun is out is best for these. The hdr is too saturated among other things and too heavy too animated on the smoothing, i prefer very fine, right hand button. and i assume you went for the cartoon effect because i know you have more control over photomatix than that.
The sky area is too bright and adds nothing to the composition and is better cropped out, the moving water is awfull ( im sugar coating it for you here mate) but the botton half frame is really nice with interesting flow patterns diagonally out right side, nice whites and golds and lovely turbulance in between, like the bottom bit.
The V2, if thats the unfriendly version looks like the old SAS mask view. i do like the right hand swirly bit, i actually go out looking from these little wonders, sad ba----d that i am.
Phil

Last Modified By NEWMANP at 8 Dec 2008 - 2:47 PM

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ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014844 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 4:13 PM


Quote: cartoon effect

no intentional cartooning here - light smoothing was at +2 (right most) and micro smoothing at full.

the sky is a particualr problem at these falls and a dull day is often best, but I've tried cropping just above the falls and I don't like it, looks squashed in to me.

I upped the saturation a lot for EPZ.... the version on my HD is a lot less saturated Wink

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digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 4:55 PM


Quote: I upped the saturation a lot for EPZ

That'll teach you. Smile

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Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 1068 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 5:10 PM

Could be that if you lower the sat you might just hit it right. It's hard to second guess what somebody else is seeing on their screen, especially when we have to second guess the colours for EPZ.

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digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 5:29 PM


Quote: especially when we have to second guess the colours for EPZ

Why? Surely you just adjust the colours according to how they look on your own monitor?

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ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014844 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2008 - 6:28 PM

my monitor's callibrated regularly - so everyone else is wrong Wink

seriously though, the higlights in the falls here look fine on mine, but at work were a white mess.

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danbrann
danbrann e2 Member 10474 forum postsdanbrann vcard 15 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2008 - 12:24 PM

Controversy Ade, thats not usual for you. my pet hate is highlights on the edge of a frame. Unfortunately my eye goes straight to the top of this image and I struggle to get back in. Crop the top? but then we compress the image somewhat.
No I think it is a picture for another day with perhaps different lighting conditions.
There are occasions when no matter what you do with an image it's just not happening.
I''ll still give you a click because I like you and you are so kind with others.

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ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014844 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
9 Dec 2008 - 1:26 PM

ha ha - you're a gentleman through and through Danny Smile

I've been here with the Bowden on many occasion and over-cast is actually a lot better in many respects.

less water is better cause you don't get covered in spray!

I'll post one of the bottom of the falls only and see what reaction that gets

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BillyGoatGruff e2 Member 7191 forum postsBillyGoatGruff vcard England199 Constructive Critique Points
10 Dec 2008 - 1:36 PM

Good choice of crop.
Where's the mono version?
Cheers
Bill

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ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014844 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
10 Dec 2008 - 2:04 PM

didn't have time to do one for this - was frantically building calendars!

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Bonico
Bonico  4 Romania
7 Jun 2010 - 9:49 PM

Wonderful work!

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