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View from the Castle of Chillon .2

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Some of my family members preferred this image to the one I showed earlier, they felt it was more dramatic in fact it is hanging on a wall in their house right now .

But they are not " photographers" I wondered what the opinion would be here? Steve

Brand:Panasonic
Camera:Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ30
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:21 Dec 2012 - 12:09 PM
Title:View from the Castle of Chillon .2
Username:stevesloan stevesloan
Uploaded:4 Jan 2013 - 9:50 AM
Tags:General, Landscape / travel, Wildlife / nature
Votes:33
Variant - TestsVariant - Tests

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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 7434 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1019 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 10:10 AM

I've been backwards and forwards between the two. I think the foreground water is better in the previous upload, I'm not keen on the effect in the bottom right corner here, but I do prefer this composition. It leads us directly to the horizon, a short cut with no prevarication. And the position of the sun breaks the symmetry very satisfyingly.
Moira

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 10:24 AM

It is indeed a dramatic picture, I like it and you get my vote. The only thing nagging me is the big spot of burnt-out sun, not sure if some post-processing would improve the end result by reducing its size a bit without making it look fake. I've got mixed feelings about that too.

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stevesloan
4 Jan 2013 - 10:30 AM

In fairness it was the burnt out sun that worried me too, I did try to do some post processing on that but it does not work. I also agree about the water Moira. I appreciate your comments Steve

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 10:35 AM

I know the feeling. Sometimes you want to shoot into the sun even though you know it's one of those things that always gets picked on. I'm not sure if a narrower aperture would have helped here to make the burnt out part smaller and more artistic... not sure, but in some of my shots (not on EPZ), the sun looks more star-shaped when I have a narrow aperture. I'm not a pro, but I think it also has to do with the number of blades on your aperture mechanism and the shape they form when closed down.

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stevesloan
4 Jan 2013 - 10:58 AM

I am sure you are right Alistair Steve

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Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 4Irishkate vcard United Kingdom73 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 11:26 AM

The portrait format makes it more dramatic and a stronger image I think.
In a strange way the burnt out sun adds a little mystery like a 'hole in the atmosphere',
coupled with the mist on the mountains, the whole image has an ethereal feel .
KateGrinGrinGrin
P.S. On looking back to find original, I must now look back again and see what I've missed of yours.
A fascinating portfolio seen with a great eye.Grin

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nonur
nonur e2 Member 5nonur vcard Turkey8 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 11:28 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Personally I'd crop it square to leave out the burned part out and only include the yellow bottom of the hole to indicate the source, and would leave the rest to imagination. A great dramatic atmosphere and I love the low clouds over the hills.

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stevesloan
4 Jan 2013 - 11:44 AM

Hadn't thought square, interesting idea....I'll try it Thanks Steve

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stevesloan
4 Jan 2013 - 11:48 AM

Just uploaded a square version as porposed by nonur, for folks to consider. Personally I think it works. Steve

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Joline
Joline e2 Member 8Joline vcard United States51 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 11:53 AM

Looking between the two is a difficult choice. The sun bothers me also, but in your square crop you have eliminated the problem nicely. I do like the straight ahead composition, it is much more dramatic and unexpected. The pier leading in from the bottom corner is of course the classic composition, but not as exciting because it is expected.
I wouldn't turn my nose up at either of them!

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 12:49 PM

The square crop does it for me. It gives the end-result a different feel and the horizon lies close to a third now as well. Overall, I think the composition looks best in the square crop. Wonderful suggestion.

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Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 4Irishkate vcard United Kingdom73 Constructive Critique Points
4 Jan 2013 - 11:37 PM

Pretty darned good result at the end of the day.
That sky and mist looks amazing.
KateGrinGrinGrin

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Maiwand
Maiwand e2 Member 7Maiwand vcard England69 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jan 2013 - 4:44 PM

Fabulous shot with very strong sky and FG detail.
Ron

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UrbaneMagick
20 Jan 2013 - 11:17 AM

Beautiful Steve..usually I would go for the mono of this kind of image, but to be honest, this can;t be improved upon.

GarethSmile

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gconant
gconant  3 United States
16 Mar 2013 - 1:27 PM

Steve;

I think that it's cropped perfectly!!

. . . What a stunning image!!

Glenn

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stevesloan
17 Mar 2013 - 11:06 AM

Thanks Glenn......proff of the adage " always have a camera with you" the light was hideous all day then it lifted for about 10 minutes.

Steve

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