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A typical Maltese 'tender' at Malta's Grand Harbour.

Camera:Canon EOS 600D
Lens:EF-S55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Focal Length:154
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.0 - 5.6
Aperture:f/20
Shutter Speed:1/60sec
ISO:100
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:Off
White Balance:Shade
Title:Boat
Username:alistairfarrugia alistairfarrugia
Uploaded:25 Sep 2012 - 10:47 PM
Tags:Boat, Hdr, Transport
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NDODS
NDODS e2 Member 32917 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom99 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 9:11 AM

A beautifully composed photograph Alistair, one which I find rather hard to comment upon, or even suggest a possible modification. I like the processing, which certainly adds a punch to the image.

Regards Nathan

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 9:20 AM

Thanks Nathan, appreciated.

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Jestertheclown
26 Sep 2012 - 10:50 AM

Hi Alistair,

I'm not a great fan of HDR unless it's done with sufficient subtlety that it's undetectable.
Although , I rather like this, it's just a bit too obvious for me.
It makes no difference to me but you'll probably get told off for putting your name on it.

Bren.

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 26 Sep 2012 - 10:52 AM

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 11:09 AM

I typically steer clear from HDR myself but it's opening up some new options with pictures that would be either too dull or too bright in some areas - using it subtly (and in this case, a tad more subtly) would be a better option I guess, point taken. In this one I like the vibrancy in the colours and stuck with it. My photography tutor, referring to HDR, asked us one thing - if you had a choice between hanging this picture or a more natural looking picture, (read over/underexposed in some areas), which one would you hang?

Regardless - I will try upload a modification that is not HDR and only has some shadow/highlight editing using Canon's RAW editor.

As regards signing - yeah I noticed that a lot in other posts, but I like signing my work in a corner - just to ensure the name shows. It is after all a work for critique not for competition purposes.

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Jestertheclown
26 Sep 2012 - 11:26 AM


Quote: if you had a choice between hanging this picture or a more natural looking picture, (read over/underexposed in some areas), which one would you hang?

When I look at it that way, I think that your tutor makes good sense.

Given the choice, I'd certainly go for this one; perhaps toned down a nudge but it's a very good point.

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 11:29 AM

We're in agreement then - revisiting this work I do notice that it might have been slightly overdone - will reload a modification/version later.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2800 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 4:18 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I dont find a whole lot wrong with it. A little ober HDR'd perhaps, but good detail in the boat, and a good oberall exposure.


What I do think is that there too much space on the right, - I know you were after the rope, but youre perhaps better confining the composition to a 10 X 8 aspect ratio, and rather than having the rope exit the frame, let it drop below the waves.

Its a little oversaturated, - and a slight colour balance shift makes a difference. I have calibrated the black and white points in the mod. The original black contained a bias towards blue.



Regards


Willie

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 4:21 PM

Thanks Willie - as usual, very valid critique and an interesting mod. It also sorts the signature question too without much fanfare... Wink

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 4:28 PM

Uploaded a 10x8 version with slightly reduced saturation.

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Jestertheclown
26 Sep 2012 - 4:31 PM

That's better!

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
26 Sep 2012 - 4:44 PM

Thx Jester, I agree. It's only when you compare one with the other that the over-saturation really really shows, and as I said, I'm quite new to HDR so I don't pick it up that easily. Smile Glad I found this community...really helpful!

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom843 Constructive Critique Points
27 Sep 2012 - 12:02 PM

Assume the HDR was by processing a single file three ways. I would have deleted an image with incorrect exposure which could not be corrected, no danger of hanging it. I do not like HDR much, but I actually didn't know this was HDR until I read your comments! That is a true accolade from me.

A nice shot of high quality. Prefer v1. I find it very nice but everyone to there own, subjectively. I would this not hang ir, but that really is personal preference.

Paul

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
27 Sep 2012 - 2:33 PM

Thanks Paul - this is an HDR made with three variants of the same picture, one underexposed, one mid-ground and one overexposed to bring out detail in shadows and highlights properly in the HDR merge. The fact that you didn't realise it was HDR is truly a good thing as I too don't like it when the HDR treatment shows up a lot.

In this case though, I think one could (and indeed some did) in fact pick up the HDR element from the over saturated colours. In fact, I was in agreement with the others who commented that said there was a bit too much saturation...that did come from overdoing it while giving it the HDR treatment.

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