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Took this a while ago. It was a very dull morning.

This version is simply tweaked with sharpness, noise reduction, histogram correction .... just the usual.

I really like the composition but can't seem to achieve something with real clarity or punch that really pleases.

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 20D
Lens:18.0-55.0 mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:16 Oct 2012 - 8:20 AM
Focal Length:18mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.5
Aperture:f/16.0
Shutter Speed:1/8sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:As Shot
Title:ANTRIM COAST
Username:ANIMAGEOFIRELAND ANIMAGEOFIRELAND
Uploaded:11 Dec 2012 - 7:19 PM
Tags:Antrim coast, Landscape / travel
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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10986 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2982 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 9:49 PM

Hi Mark.

One major problem you have here is white balance. And this is seen by looking at the foam from the waves, and seeing that theyre blue, when they should be close to white. So theres an excessive blue colour cast.

I assume you used Auto WB, which is OK, but only if shooting RAW. If shooting JPEG, you need to develop the habit of selecting the white balance that closely matches the conditions.

Im assuming you used a tripod also, as the shutter speed is too slow for the focal length, but the aperture is fine. Combine that with not so great weather, and you have a poor result.

How proficient are you with Photoshop? If you do have Photoshop, take your original shot, male a layer, then do to image>adjustments>match colour, and click the Neutralize box and see what it does. It attempts to remove a colour cast to neutralize, though is not the way to go about it, it will give you a quick demo.


In the mod, the colour cast is removed; there some shadows lifted and highlights reduced; a little sharpening, and an increase in saturation.

let me know what you think, and lets know which version of Photoshop you have, or if something else, what it is.


Hope this helps,


Regards


Willie

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
12 Dec 2012 - 9:02 AM

Willies mod does say it all. The lighting conditions have given you that very heavy cast. Your v2 is better than v1, bu the cast is still there. The scene is pleasant, but without being very inspiring. A pictorial record.

Paul

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
12 Dec 2012 - 10:00 AM

The problems of colour temperature have been very nicely dealt with above, but compositionally I would crop a little from the sky to place the horizon around 1/3 from the top.

See mod. where I have taken the liberty of using Willie's mod as the basis.

Frank

Last Modified By Focus_Man at 12 Dec 2012 - 10:01 AM

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ANIMAGEOFIRELAND

Thanks gents. I really appreciate the advice and the modifications. Taking everything you have said on board and adding to my usual process I hope I have done some justice to another photo taken from the same position. I have uploaded it to allow votes on today's gallery but do please leave your comments.
The one thing that I have tried to achieve is to keep the rocks as white as possible rather than the sandy colour in the modification. It's been a challenge to balance the integrity of the sky, the sea and the rocks as they are all different types of white (if you know what I mean).

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10986 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2982 Constructive Critique Points
12 Dec 2012 - 10:39 PM

The new upload is better, but the white balance is still a little too cool. You cant arbitrarily decide what colour a rock needs to be, you need to actually measure and calibrate for accurate colour, and that involves shooting in RAW.

What you eye sees, and what the camera sees are two different things entirely, hence the need to calibrate white balance if you want to be accurate. What white balance setting did you use for the latest shot, - did you leave it at Auto, or take the advice above, and set it to the actual conditions? You mentioned you wanted the rocks as close to white as possible, and if I download that image and use the rocks as a reference for white, the shot becomes much warmer, and less blue, but the rocks are a lot closer to white.

The mod is a rough attempt at removing the colour cast, not a white balance change, so it will not be accurate, - just a lot closer to reality than overall blue, - I cant set the white balance without access to the RAW image.


Anyway, I uploaded here a mod of your last upload, simply using the brightest part of the near rocks as a white reference, - you can see its a lot different.


Regards


Willie

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