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Many thanks to those of you who contributed to the debate on yesterday's image, Summertime, and I was really interested in all your comments. This is the same image, but, at the suggestion of some of you, I've isolated the family at the far end of the beach. Equally, I'm sure some of you will say I've got nothing in the bottom third of the image (except the footprints), but to me this shows the scale of Luskentyre Beach and I really like the result. I hope that those who have been there will understand why I've done it. If you can be bothered, please comment or criticise as you feel fit but thanks for looking.
Ann

Camera:Canon EOS 60D
Lens:Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5DCMacroAsp.IF HSM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:4 Jul 2012 - 3:07 PM
Focal Length:70mm
Aperture:f/14
Shutter Speed:1/320sec
ISO:100
White Balance:Auto
Title:Footprints
Username:AnnChown AnnChown
Uploaded:25 Aug 2012 - 4:58 PM
Tags:Beach, Harris, Isle of harris, Landscape / travel, Luskentyre Beach, Seaside
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digital_boi
25 Aug 2012 - 5:00 PM

i think this does work better Ann like it

GrahamGrinGrinGrin

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susanbarton
25 Aug 2012 - 5:09 PM

I like this one best it gives the feeling of having the entire beech to your self a very evocative image

Susan

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achieverswales
25 Aug 2012 - 5:19 PM

Hi An
Designing a landscape image is like telling a story. You need to draw your audience into the image and direct them around to the most important elements.
Using compositional elements such as leading lines and interesting foregrounds will help to guide the viewer through the image, with this capture you are showing the isolation of the beach and done excellently, the lightness of the sky mirrors the lightness of the foreground, over all a very good seascape with the added interest of the human element.
This site is so slow today it is driving me crazySad


Regards

Trev.

Last Modified By achieverswales at 25 Aug 2012 - 5:20 PM

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nonur
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25 Aug 2012 - 5:20 PM

Great beach shot, so spacious and warm. I love it!

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woolybill1
woolybill1 e2 Member 7woolybill1 vcard United Kingdom65 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 5:20 PM

First and foremost your photographs should please you; anyone else's pleasure is a bonus.
That's my philosophy, I think.
This photo pleases me, though I'm not sure that I prefer it to yesterday's.
The figures are at the apex of an irregular triangle formed by the bas of the photo and the water's edges; the triangle points to the low land (island?) horizon which the man in the family group is himself photographing. The figures are prominent despite their minimal size. Interestingly, they are now almost 3-D as the now removed figures were in the full frame.
I must stop blethering on!
Regards
Bill

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AnnChown
AnnChown e2 Member 4183 forum postsAnnChown vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 5:24 PM


Quote: First and foremost your photographs should please you; anyone else's pleasure is a bonus.
That's my philosophy, I think.
This photo pleases me, though I'm not sure that I prefer it to yesterday's.
The figures are at the apex of an irregular triangle formed by the bas of the photo and the water's edges; the triangle points to the low land (island?) horizon which the man in the family group is himself photographing. The figures are prominent despite their minimal size. Interestingly, they are now almost 3-D as the now removed figures were in the full frame.
I must stop blethering on!
Regards
Bill

Thanks Bill - you can blether all you like... I'm probably the only one who's listening! Smile

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marktc
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25 Aug 2012 - 5:30 PM

I'm not sure about irregular triangles, but the dry swatch of beach is almost a path between the sea and the remaing pool of water. This leads the viewers eye straight to the party on the beach and beyond to the horizon. It's a great image all round Ann.

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RonnieAG
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25 Aug 2012 - 5:33 PM

It works very well, Ann: a fairly bland sky and beach with all the interest on the upper third horizontal level.
Very well done, I'd say.
Ronnie.

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jonwebber
jonwebber  6 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 5:46 PM

I will not enter the irregular traingles discussion. I would, however, be pleased as punch if I had taken this . . .
jon

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gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6519 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
25 Aug 2012 - 5:59 PM

Thanks Bill - you can blether all you like... I'm probably the only one who's listening!


Two of us then because Bill made some very interesting points, none more so than an image has to please the person that took it and if others like it then that is a bonus, I used to think when uploading an image, will this go down well but now I think so what if it doesn't.

But in your image you have nothing to worry about in my view as its a very pleasing image.

gary

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mrswoolybill
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:02 PM

The footsteps are all that the foreground needs, they suggest a fleeting human presence passing through total silence and emptiness.
I do prefer this to yesterday's. My only quibble is that I would prefer a true square crop. Square gives a lean, taut, contained feel. Not-quite-square seems a bit floppy, flabby, if that makes any sense. It probably doesn't... Anyway I'd take a slice off the left side (but maybe move that headland a wee bit further right into the picture so as not to lose it. This is a manipulation after all...)
Moira

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Badgerfred
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:06 PM

Works for me Ann,
Fred.

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AnnChown
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:17 PM

I had thought about a square crop Moira, but somehow this one happened. I'll try the square and upload it, but I'm just off for a glass of wine and a game of Scrabble! Smile

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LynneJoyce
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:21 PM

The footprints are essential to this piece giving all the foreground interest needed and a whole lot more to the story that this image conjures up in each of our heads.

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barbarahirst
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:23 PM

I kinda preferred yesterdays version ... but if I hadnt seen that this is great
I would also like to see this one cropped on the right side just on the right of that mound of dark sand

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morpheus1955
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:24 PM

What a super image, so simple and very engaging IMHO SmileSmile Quiet and peaceful as I imagine that beach is SmileSmile

Hugh

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jdinne
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:25 PM

Ann I think you have nailed it here. Love the composition would look good on any wall.

John

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SlowSong
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25 Aug 2012 - 6:57 PM

THis is much better than yesterday's. I love the empty foreground as it makes a statement. I found yesterday's was neither one thing or another. Smile
x

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derekhansen
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25 Aug 2012 - 7:18 PM

I really like this Ann. The slight softness (Gaussian Blur?) and the composition works very well.
Derek

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AnnChown
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25 Aug 2012 - 8:00 PM


Quote: I really like this Ann. The slight softness (Gaussian Blur?) and the composition works very well.
Derek

Just some treatment in Topaz Derek.

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oldgreyheron
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25 Aug 2012 - 8:32 PM

OK, after all that, can I just say that I like this a lot Ann?

Mike

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WhiteRose1
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25 Aug 2012 - 8:34 PM

I understand the irregular triangles and the expanse of beach and the footsteps in the sand but I don't think it's as strong a composition as your last. But, as stated above, it's your thoughts that count. I think you might have broken a few records of versions uploaded with yesterdays image if you'd allowed mods!Grin. Which Topaz effect did you use?

Dave

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Lillian
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25 Aug 2012 - 8:43 PM

I like it too Ann a great composition
and so beautifully presented
Lillian

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MalcolmM
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25 Aug 2012 - 9:30 PM

So many variations & suggestions !
Like this (maybe the group more distant & less central), but still favour yesterday's letterbox format.
Malcolm

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BarryC123
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25 Aug 2012 - 10:30 PM

Well this really does work well - it certainly shows the beach itself to great effect, which I gather was your original intention.
I've certainly put in on my 'places worth seeing' list.
I do have one thought though.
Whatever happened to the other group of people and dogs in yesterdays image? I really liked them and was hoping to see them again.

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EAS
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25 Aug 2012 - 10:49 PM

An amazing sense of scale in this and rather fascinating!

Ann

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sweetpea62
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26 Aug 2012 - 12:50 AM

A stunning beach,beautiful capture,well done..Lin

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posty57
posty57  6 United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 1:29 AM

I prefer this to yesterdays...I love the emptiness that the foreground generates, but I would love to see a postbox crop of the top third....Hape yuo enyjed teh scarbbel and wnie

BarryWink

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zapar40
zapar40  466 forum posts Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
26 Aug 2012 - 4:19 AM

i like the scale of the group within this scene, and barry's suggestion of a top third panaramic crop would look nice too, nice one.
ant.

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franken
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26 Aug 2012 - 7:11 AM

Another excellent image Ann. The footprints in the foreground balances it nicely.

Ken

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fentiger
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26 Aug 2012 - 7:47 AM

A fine composition but after careful comparison I prefer the previous upload.

Albert

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26 Aug 2012 - 7:58 AM

When I read the comment yesterday about cropping this image to the left of your picture I knew you would arrive at a central position for the family, but I did suggest that you should break the rules of composition and you have, for me it's not better or worse, but almost as good as your original.

Luskentyre is where I would live if I had the money, so wonderful is the light across the sands here and the view to Taransay. A place to love and walk and enjoy, you've shared our secret with so many but it will always be there to see differently through our own eyes.

Dougie

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annettep38
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26 Aug 2012 - 8:19 AM


Quote: A fine composition but after careful comparison I prefer the previous upload.

Albert

Agree.
I prefer today's topazing but yesterday's comp.
The vastness also needs the width.

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lifesnapper
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26 Aug 2012 - 8:48 AM

Smashing shot Ann, even a splash of Red in the Sand.
The Woman has lovely long Legs by the way Smile ( That's me paying attention to detail)

John Smile

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JohnChambersPhotography

I like it, kind of reminds me of castaways .......isolation and all that. YOU like it that's the main thing, I like it, seems a lot more like it also.....

John

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jasonrwl
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26 Aug 2012 - 9:17 AM

It works well Ann although I do still prefer yesterday's
Jason

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CaroleS
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26 Aug 2012 - 9:25 AM

I like both well executed images, but would like to see a combination of both, the composition and format of yesterday's combined with the treatment of today's. Both images would make lovely prints Ann.
Carole

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26 Aug 2012 - 10:03 AM

I like both a lot, Ann, but if I had to choose only one to have on my wall then it would be yesterday's.
Today's is no less better, just different. You get away with the large expanse of fg sand due to its borders which converge at the group. Any other shape to the sand wouldn't work. The small size of the people also tell us a lot about the scale and distances here.

Malc

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wolfy
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26 Aug 2012 - 10:11 AM

Love the isolation works really well Ann...

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26 Aug 2012 - 1:11 PM

The sense of emptiness is what really makes this for me. Stunning.

Regards.

Bob

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ChiliMan
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26 Aug 2012 - 1:32 PM

I'm glad you left the bottom, as you already know Smile I hadn't realised those brown things were footprints! Even more important now Smile

But AAARGH...I can't decide which I prefer. I thought it would be easy. I thought it would be the previous one without a thought. BUT...I love the sharpness of the people here and that churned up sand bit with the red thing.

I'm not gonna keep looking back and forth otherwise my head is gonna explode...lol

I will say this: As an art card - and still thinking along Vettriano lines - to me, this works better.

Feels like I'm betraying the other image, though Sad

Andrew

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26 Aug 2012 - 4:35 PM

Go with your gut feelings Ann - if you like it that's good enough.Smile Yesterdays image was far superior. A photo's not made of triangles and thirds that's all photo babble on a par with painting by numbers. I will await the letterbox image that the original image was crying out for.
Are you sure that is footprints - strange pattern.
Brian.

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27 Aug 2012 - 12:13 AM

An excellent minimalistic beachscape, you've conveyed the feeling of vast open space so well

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27 Aug 2012 - 4:25 AM


Quote: First and foremost your photographs should please you; anyone else's pleasure is a bonus.
That's my philosophy, I think.
This photo pleases me, though I'm not sure that I prefer it to yesterday's.
The figures are at the apex of an irregular triangle formed by the bas of the photo and the water's edges; the triangle points to the low land (island?) horizon which the man in the family group is himself photographing. The figures are prominent despite their minimal size. Interestingly, they are now almost 3-D as the now removed figures were in the full frame.
I must stop blethering on!
Regards
Bill

Ann, I am not usually one to simply quote another member but Bill has put this so succinctly. I do like this image.
-=\Walter

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Joline
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27 Aug 2012 - 11:58 AM

The simplicity of this is so pleasing and restful to the eye. This is the sort of image one could look at for a long time and relax the mind. The composition is very sophisticated and quite beautifully done.
I actually prefer it over the previous for its sense of space and freedom. It gives the mind and eye places to go without being boxed in.

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Niknut
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10 Sep 2012 - 4:39 PM

GrinGrinGrinGrin !!!....got to make this one 60 too !!!!!

I prefer the 'mood' in the previous version.....but this has a lovely sense of 'wide-open-spaces' ?, with a feeling of
isolation in an endless 'wilderness'......still a great shot though !!!!

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