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I don't know what you think, but I think that my Cuban images lacked a bit of grittiness, so with the idea of seeing whether a bit of grittiness would improve them, I'm trialling Topaz Adjust. It seemed that yesterday's image worked, but the processing was quite subtle. Today, I may have gone over the top - so I've uploaded three versions:
v1: the mildest Topaz treatment
v2: the original processed in Lightroom
v3: probably WAY OTT - but I quite like it. Tongue
My favourite is v1 and I'd be interested - if you have the time and energy - to learn what you think.
Thanks for your time and for looking!
Ann
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ISO 100
1/40 sec
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Focal length 63mm

Lens:Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5DCMacroAsp.IF HSM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Staring
Username:AnnChown AnnChown
Uploaded:8 Jun 2012 - 10:03 AM
Tags:Cuba, Digitally manipulated, Havana, Landscape / travel, Transport
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NaturesHaven
NaturesHaven e2 Member 3260 forum postsNaturesHaven vcard England5 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 10:07 AM

Gritty..........and nice.......WinkWink

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Lillian
Lillian e2 Member 5Lillian vcard United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 10:07 AM

Morning neighbour, and what a great shot Ann
going for V1 really well processed
really liking these in the series from Cuba
Lillian

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phil1963
phil1963 e2 Member 2265 forum postsphil1963 vcard United Kingdom
8 Jun 2012 - 10:07 AM

I too like V3Grin

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SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64838 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 10:20 AM

V2 for me. Some places just don't need added processing. Not that I don't like it, but I just prefer the original.
Chris

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franken
franken e2 Member 123261 forum postsfranken vcard Wales4 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 10:24 AM

Excellent shot and version 1 for me.

Ken

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 5143 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland112 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 10:32 AM

I like V 1 best, followed by V 3, Ann: V 2 does nothing for me as so much detail seems to have been lost, especially so since you were looking for a bit of grittiness. Interesting that Chris says "V 2 for me".
The composition itself is great, the old man sitting alongside but just a wee bit away from the car and his apparent dejection and seems to echo the state of the old car.
Ronnie.

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morpheus1955
8 Jun 2012 - 10:40 AM

Wonderful image Ann, for me it has to be V1.

Hugh

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jdinne
jdinne  11 England
8 Jun 2012 - 10:57 AM

Great composition Ann, I rather think for me V3 tips the balance.

John

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saeidNL
saeidNL  5 Netherlands3 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 11:03 AM

Fantastic and great works indeed,V1 is my favorite ,very well done,
saeid

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Metro6R4
Metro6R4  4 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 11:27 AM

Hi I have used topaz for years now & I can say V1 is the best image processed used IMO......... regards Paul.

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Joline
Joline e2 Member 8Joline vcard United States52 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 11:38 AM

I really like Topaz...it is very versatile once you get the hang of it.
I like v1, but I think v3 represents the emotion and flavor of the situation better.
I think you will enjoy using that program. Did you get version 5?

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marktc
marktc e2 Member 456 forum postsmarktc vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 11:43 AM

I'm afraid I just like them all Ann, each has it's own merits and each is equally as appealing. Very well done indeed

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woolybill1
woolybill1 e2 Member 8woolybill1 vcard United Kingdom65 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 12:00 PM

First: the composition is superb, the left-right imbalance being for me the whole point (and matched by the lopsided appeal of the old car itself Smile).
Second: all three versions work for me, each in its own way. V3 is OTT, as you say, but not unacceptably so: it has instant impact, suitable for a poster perhaps, though I'm not altogether that it makes an entirely positive impression. V1 relieves the dark shadow beneath the car's bonnet and adds definition to the radiator and the walls in the background. Like a good dose of USM without added artefacts!
No particular objections to V2, I must say, though V1 is my favourite. The subject is after all reasonably gritty to start with Smile
Regards
Bill

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helenlinda
helenlinda e2 Member 7338 forum postshelenlinda vcard United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 12:04 PM

v1 for me, if its grain you are looking for, though v2 works fine for me anyway SmileSmile
Helen

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taggart
taggart e2 Member 1042 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 12:44 PM

I like how you have used and subtle--ized the highlights in v3---

But, it is my feeling that it is your image, yours to present---

and this business with the monitors is troubling me---what i see may not be what you see---------- etc.

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mrswoolybill
mrswoolybill Critique Team 8520 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1088 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 12:57 PM

The composition is brilliant - it balances. There seems to be an uneasy stand-off between the man and the car, both trying to ignore each other.
V1 for me. It brings out the textures rather nicely. V3 is just a step too far for me.
Moira

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andylea
andylea  637 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 1:05 PM

cracking set ann fantastic detail brilliant colours and textures v1 for me today a belter nice opne Wink
andy

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bricurtis
bricurtis e2 Member 91925 forum postsbricurtis vcard England48 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 1:09 PM

V1 - for me Ann - you have some good contrast going on there.( looks slightly HDR ish though)
V2 - to be honest despite having been in Lightroom it looks like a flat/dull RAW file.
V3 - a step too far Smile
Have you thought of adding grain/noise to these images yourself instead of depending on Topaz.????
Brian.

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derekhansen
derekhansen e2 Member 6200 forum postsderekhansen vcard United Kingdom24 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 1:11 PM

V1, V3 and then V2 for me Ann. I like the exposure best on this one with the slightly grittier appearance.

I like the relationship between the man and the car and the way that although his posture and demeanour separates him from the car the blue reflected on the cars screen and bonnet balances with the blue of his vest.
One of the best of your Cuba shots uploaded IMO.
Derek

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WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41101 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England136 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 1:35 PM

1, 3, 2 Ann. v2 has so much detail missing than comes out in v1, and if you hadn't mentioned it I sure people would not have realised you used Topaz. Superb composition, and the man pointing one way and the wheels the other is excellent.

Dave

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jonwebber
jonwebber  6 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 2:34 PM

A difficult choice, each version has its own immense appeal. V1 for the revealed detail just scrapes in front.

Maybe.

I mentioned a composer and his music in a PM yesterday. I also put his names the wrong way round. James Oswald it is.
jon

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ChiliMan
ChiliMan e2 Member 8135 forum postsChiliMan vcard Singapore17 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 2:50 PM

I don't think V3 is OTT at all...but my favourite is definitely V1. The reason may be linked to my monitor, but for me, I like the light and definition on the dude in V1. Parts of him and the car go a wee bit too much into shadow in V3. But V3 is a very very very close second Smile

Andrew

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alto333
alto333  2 Ireland
8 Jun 2012 - 3:09 PM

Love everything about it! Envy! The 3 holes on the side front wing might suggest another Buick. Both car and man look seriouisly down at the mouth.

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sweetpea62
sweetpea62 e2 Member 4sweetpea62 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 3:11 PM

Another wonderful capure of Cuba Ann,well done..Lin

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 5143 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland112 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 3:17 PM

Just popped back to see what others felt, Ann: interesting to read the comments and preferences.
Ronnie.

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CaroleS
CaroleS e2 Member 437 forum postsCaroleS vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 4:31 PM

V1 for me Ann, you just managed that eye contact!
Carole

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danbrann
danbrann e2 Member 10495 forum postsdanbrann vcard 15 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 4:34 PM

Nowt wrong with any of them Ann. On this sit when we ask 2"What do you think" we suddenly get every art critic on here. Do what you want to do Ann ..to hell with the rest of us.

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gajewski
gajewski e2 Member 10gajewski vcard United States9 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 4:55 PM

Ann, I think for the most part I'm with you. V2 (the original) is a bit flat and it needs the processing we see in V1. However, my favorite is V3. It is not OTT. It is an artistic statement and represents your vision. AND -- it is along the lines of my tastes and philosophies about creating images that convey something beyond what the straight forward photo presents.

I fear I'm not expressing myself very succinctly here.
Outside of that, I have to re-iterate what Jenn said. We are all looking at this on a wide variety of monitors and what I see is not exactly what anybody else sees.
-=\Walter
PS -- I just read danbrann's comment and I agree. Stay true to your own vision.

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lifesnapper
lifesnapper e2 Member 8lifesnapper vcard England1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 5:04 PM

Great GREAT shot Ann, and it's V1 for me Smile

John Smile

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Sezz
Sezz e2 Member 9617 forum postsSezz vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 5:18 PM

V1 club for me too, closely followed by V3 as I quite like a lot of contrast in my images!

Sarah *

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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 6barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 6:07 PM

Come in no. 603 .... your time is up!
V1 & V3 are ny favourites

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chase
chase Critique Team 91118 forum postschase vcard England242 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 6:07 PM

I'm between versions....a combination of V1 & 2 would suit me better.
I like the HDR effect on the car in V1 but prefer the more gentle apperance of the chap & the little bit of wall behind him in V2.
V3...yep a wee bit over the top but I bet it looks the best out of the three in print.

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8827 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1638 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 7:28 PM

V1 for me, Ann.
It looks like man and car have had a falling out. Maybe the car refused to start. Its wheels are turned away from the man, as if it is in a huff, and its expression is definitely that of one miserable vehicle. The man has distanced himself from the offending rust-bucket and looks really cheesed off.

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Michaela_Solway

Mmm V1 as the processing is subtle & does suit the subject .. The composition stands up on it's own of course.. Man & car sooo complimentary.. A great series Ann

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zapar40
zapar40  466 forum posts Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 7:40 PM

a great shot, as with most on here i agree on v1, having made my decision before seeing any other comments, but also would like to say its how you feel about the image that matters.
ant.

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bricurtis
bricurtis e2 Member 91925 forum postsbricurtis vcard England48 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 7:48 PM


Quote: Nowt wrong with any of them Ann. On this sit when we ask 2"What do you think" we suddenly get every art critic on here. Do what you want to do Ann ..to hell with the rest of us.

When a member specifically asks for opinions on an image it is only polite to answer the request. It's nothing to do with being an 'art critic' it's about an attempt to be helpful - you were not !!!

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BarbaraR
BarbaraR  8 England1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 7:49 PM

I love the processing.
V1 is just right for me.
They do look like they have fallen out Smile
Very well done.

B.

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cassiecat
cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 7:54 PM

v1 is just right for me. love the comp with the way the wheels are turned away from the man, and the man is turned away from the car. perhaps it should be called sulking lol. lesley

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nonur e2 Member 6nonur vcard Turkey8 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jun 2012 - 8:00 PM

V1 for me too! Fabulous light, colour, texture and capture!

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Hop-A-Long
8 Jun 2012 - 9:44 PM

I have to say I like Way OTT myself. Great image, nicely composed.

Andy

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Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 1068 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jun 2012 - 8:07 AM

V1 has the detail and the wonderful light, " a little is a lot" when using software to enhance I find. Love the warmth in the light and I see the number is back in this shot. Lovely work, you have opened a sea of comments by that simple question Ann.

Dougie Wink

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Anna_W
Anna_W  3 United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jun 2012 - 8:57 PM

v1 is my favourite too - it seems to have brought out the detail and grittiness without being too obvious and has a lovely subtle feel to it.
Regards
Anna

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annettep38
annettep38 e2 Member 3188 forum postsannettep38 vcard France32 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jun 2012 - 12:16 AM

V1 for me, but I know what you mean, I do get often tempted to try some exotic setting and sometimes I love it. It is always worth a try.

And it IS a very well composed shot!!! So I love even the original very much

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jasonrwl
jasonrwl e2 Member 4261 forum postsjasonrwl vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jun 2012 - 11:57 PM

v3 for me Ann - not OTT at all.
Jason

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Cliff1944
Cliff1944 e2 Member 3Cliff1944 vcard Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jun 2012 - 4:30 PM

You have certainly found some great subjects on this trip,Ann.
I really like this composition; if I had to choose it would be V1.
Cliff

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Glostopcat e2 Member 8246 forum postsGlostopcat vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jun 2012 - 11:08 PM

V1 is the best of this set Ann and most others think so too, an excellent addition to this series on Cuba

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wap69
wap69  5 United Kingdom
22 Jun 2012 - 12:16 AM

V1 works really well and nicely balanced,these images from cuba are superb.

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