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The statistics about children in jail shocked me today.

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Title:Inside
Username:answersonapostcard answersonapostcard
Uploaded:31 Oct 2005 - 1:20 PM
Tags:Bars, Children behind bars, Digitally manipulated, Jail, Jailed children
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SueTurner
SueTurner  1081 forum posts England3 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 1:23 PM

Very emotive
Sue

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mellyleth
mellyleth  10212 forum posts United Kingdom
31 Oct 2005 - 1:24 PM

Didn't read the story, but a fantastic image.

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Crazy_Daisy
31 Oct 2005 - 1:24 PM

yes, it is very shocking! amazing photo, it gives a lot to think of.
Kathy

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scragend
scragend  10 Scotland
31 Oct 2005 - 1:25 PM

Wow! You were very quick from reading an article this morning to producing such a powerful image!

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SteveCharles
31 Oct 2005 - 1:26 PM

A very dark & deep image, great work.

Steve

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john short
john short  1125 forum posts United Kingdom
31 Oct 2005 - 1:27 PM

superb !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BenF
BenF  9 United States
31 Oct 2005 - 1:30 PM

Nice one.

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shed
shed  10586 forum posts England
31 Oct 2005 - 1:32 PM

Shocking stroy but an awsome and very emotive image. An extremely powerfull image.

Andrew

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jeanie
jeanie e2 Member 105972 forum postsjeanie vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 1:39 PM

Excellent!

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jany
jany  1194 forum posts United Kingdom
31 Oct 2005 - 1:40 PM

A hard hitting image, gets you thinking. You've worked this well.

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flossie
flossie  111557 forum posts
31 Oct 2005 - 1:44 PM

Very poignant ...nicely done K, this could easily bring a tear to my eye if I looked too long

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Willyjeen
Willyjeen  9
31 Oct 2005 - 1:47 PM

Wow. This is a very powerful image.

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beavis
beavis  9 Ireland
31 Oct 2005 - 1:52 PM

Great shot....click..

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tull
tull  11181 forum posts United Kingdom
31 Oct 2005 - 1:54 PM

Very thought provoking K. Excellent work.

Mark.

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geoffwd
geoffwd  9 United Kingdom
31 Oct 2005 - 1:55 PM

Powerful image

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IanFlindt
IanFlindt  10739 forum posts United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 1:56 PM

This is outstanding, K. I haven't read the story, but this image speaks volumes and with a powerful voice. Remarkable.

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C_Daniels
C_Daniels  9399 forum posts England10 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 2:04 PM

Effective - dark but with great impact...

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fredthegnome
31 Oct 2005 - 2:07 PM

Fantastic image extremely powerful and emotional, incredible. Smile

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pennyspike
pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 2:08 PM

A powerful image with a message. I hope it does well for you.
Penny

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mystery1962
31 Oct 2005 - 2:10 PM

great image and it gats a point across*

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annaliese
annaliese  10421 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 2:10 PM

Brilliant!

annaliese

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sbphoto
sbphoto  10 Ireland
31 Oct 2005 - 2:10 PM

A very tought provoking image, The Teddy bear image and the placement of the hands, even without a face you know its a child in there. super image.
SB

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Nic_WA
Nic_WA  10179 forum posts Australia2 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 2:12 PM

You just keep getting better and better. Powerful image K.
Nic

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U4eA
U4eA  10475 forum posts England
31 Oct 2005 - 2:30 PM

Dark and very emotive...could be a poster campaign. Looks technically pretty damn good to me too.

Just had to try a B&W tinker though... Smile

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10933 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2939 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 2:39 PM

Terrific.

W

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paulstefan
paulstefan  10509 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 2:42 PM

Shockingly good, K
Paul..

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proberts
proberts  10218 forum posts Wales4 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 3:01 PM

I think another EC coming your way,this is superb K,probably your best yet.
Andrew.

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simon butterworth

Very evocative, stunningly produced.

Simon

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rosie42
rosie42  10 Australia
31 Oct 2005 - 3:48 PM

This is fabulous, K ....

Susie :o)

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PatrickSmith
31 Oct 2005 - 3:59 PM

Children in Jail? Can you point me to a story? Anyway this is just superb. The light, the way the hands are holding the stuffed bear, the bars.. very good!
Patrick

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billma
billma  11119 forum posts United States
31 Oct 2005 - 4:20 PM

Outstanding. Seems more like photojournalism than manipulated. I think that this is brilliant.

bill

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Nic_WA
Nic_WA  10179 forum posts Australia2 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 5:25 PM

Been back a couple of times for another look - so thought-provoking and also technically very, very good.

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mwatkins9801
31 Oct 2005 - 6:32 PM

:o)
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martinproe
31 Oct 2005 - 9:58 PM

Great concept and wondeful image, good luck, looks a winner.

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GregorP
GregorP  9 Slovenia
31 Oct 2005 - 9:59 PM

Nice presented photo, that has a good story!
GregorP

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KathyW
KathyW  111793 forum posts Norfolk Island12 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 10:08 PM

Very powerful image, super work.

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riprap007
riprap007  101568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 10:41 PM

vgreat discomforting work

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claret
claret  1049 forum posts England
31 Oct 2005 - 10:54 PM

Very cleverly done. Powerful image.
Iain

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Origami_Owl
31 Oct 2005 - 10:58 PM

Agree with above - very powerful and well brought together. The dirty teddy detail is very well done.

Paul

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paulcr
paulcr  91536 forum posts Ireland9 Constructive Critique Points
31 Oct 2005 - 11:20 PM

Woah, great stuff K. Quite a divergence for you. Well done. PAul

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User_Removed
31 Oct 2005 - 11:55 PM

Morning K, seems we are all going out on a little re direction of late. What can I say other than this is one very professional powerful piece of work. As an area I frequent often for my stock supply to the Science Photo Library I can say this would be an image that would sell and sell for editorial requirements, the reason its powerful image hits home without crossing any taste barriers and gets you thinking. On a personal point this is one step your creative juices should explore more. I often watch the TV or read an article which makes my blood boil and often seem at a loss for what I can do, photography or art will often as they say, say more than a thousand words.
One of your most outstanding photos K.

Take care Luv Victor xx

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user_absconded
1 Nov 2005 - 12:00 AM

Really excellent, let me give a very well deserved 50.

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NikH
NikH  10524 forum posts England
1 Nov 2005 - 12:03 AM

I think this is just outstandingly superb. Victor has summed it up completely. This image speaks volumes, far more than words or any story or article ever could. Nik

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 12:26 AM

Blimey! Thanks everyone for all your comments, to be honest I never really expected this to do well. It had 30 odd views in the first few minutes but no comments so thought something was wrong with it. I have entered into this months comp as it was an idea I had for the theme a couple of days ago, only had chance to do something about it yesterday and alot of PS work was involved because my camera is faulty I believe now so to do straight photography is going to be very difficult. Some bits of information I picked up on the internet for a bit of background on the picture shocked me and the more I read about children in prison the more I've convinced the system is failing, and even more likely that the failure is happening before they reach the courts. 8500 more crimes a year committed by young ex-prisoners. Since 1990 29 children have died in UK prisons, 28 hanged themselves and one died while being restrained. Of 1766 women surveyed by the Home Office 1082 were mothers of chidren under 18. Children are reported to have a variety of serious emotional and behavourial problems when separated from their mothers.
Women prisoners are more likely to be young and single, over half female prisoners are teenagers with their first child. Children born to women in prison are taken away when the child reaches 9 months old if no access to a Mother and Baby unit is allowed.
Mothers-to-be are not told until 2 weeks before the birth whether they can keep their child leading to emotional detachment. I've this in the comp entry too but there is a whole lot more I could say - I never ever realised the scale of the situation until now. Special thanks for Victor too, you always seem to know which way I should be heading Smile Thanks again everyone. K.

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ktcam
ktcam  9457 forum posts Scotland
1 Nov 2005 - 12:51 AM

Excellent image and beautifully handled.
kate

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funkeldink
funkeldink  101592 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 2:10 AM

your very best ...... EVER...... numero uno .... should be an EC just so more people can see this powerful work

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helendixon
helendixon  1030 forum posts United Kingdom
1 Nov 2005 - 2:26 AM

Excellent stuff, so moody, you've done fantastic job here. Well done K.

Helen.

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Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman e2 Member 114521 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 2:40 AM

If this don't get an EC/POTW when Pete comes back, I think I will personally kick him up the arse!

Thought provoking, powerful and could easily be used by any of the child charities. Not an image I think I will forget easily. Congratulations K on this superlative piece of work!

Ade

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 2:51 AM

LOL@Ade, thanks everyone for all your lovely comments, each and every one is appreciated, thanks to to all those who clicked but didnt comment, I appreciate it. K.

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mona
mona  9 United Kingdom
1 Nov 2005 - 3:23 AM

my respect. there-s not much i can say (looking at all the comments above)... just: i am deeply moved and i hope i will see many more like this.

m.

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ericfaragh
ericfaragh  11121 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 3:25 AM

Great treatment, great impact. Well done.

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trahern
trahern  11863 forum posts United Kingdom
1 Nov 2005 - 3:53 AM

Excellent stuff - powerful message.

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Consulo
Consulo  10768 forum posts Scotland10 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 4:22 AM

Well, that's this month's competition won. Smile

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sandyb  1034 forum posts United Kingdom
1 Nov 2005 - 5:12 AM

stunning a very powerful image. it say's it all sandyb

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 5:26 AM

Thanks very much everyone Smile K.

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digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 5:54 AM

This is brilliant K, how/where did you get the bars?

Ian

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1 Nov 2005 - 6:07 AM

Thanks Ian, I got Ryan to hold onto a pole but it was shiny and not at all suitable so I then took an image of a piece of rust I had and sectioned it so that each 'pole' was different, use the burn tool on the edges and placed a highlight in the middle to give the appearance of a curve, adjusted the contrast and brightness and overlaid onto the image.

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digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 6:15 AM

Impressive.

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PatrickSmith
1 Nov 2005 - 6:18 AM

Thanks for the explanation K!
Patrick

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2005 - 6:34 AM

Thanks again Ian and no problem Patrick Smile

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1 Nov 2005 - 7:48 AM

Wow. Tremendous impact. Great idea. Ali.

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Mari
Mari  111825 forum posts Wales
1 Nov 2005 - 12:17 PM

Fantastic piece of photography, K, congrats. You have a rare talent.

Mari Smile

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Dinda
Dinda  1090 forum posts United Kingdom
1 Nov 2005 - 12:39 PM

All been said already K, but just such a powerful image!

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beaniebabe
1 Nov 2005 - 1:31 PM

Cannot say anymore...except it's very powerful and I am nearly in tears.

Thank you Angie x

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A_Harrison
A_Harrison  10260 forum posts Canada
1 Nov 2005 - 1:45 PM

Wow.Powerful...............Can't think of anything else to say.Just sopowerful.


Allan

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2005 - 12:54 AM

Thank you very much everyone, I'm pleased that its got a good reception. K.

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icafe  11 Canada
2 Nov 2005 - 5:26 AM

A powerful and effective photo-message. Could see this in journals, magazines, book covers, etc. One of your best.
Arthur Smile

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2 Nov 2005 - 5:40 AM

Thank you Arthur, that is very kind. K.

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cdm36 e2 Member 10391 forum postscdm36 vcard England7 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2005 - 5:49 AM

A very strong and powerful image K with the ability to evoke such thought provoking reaction, well done.

Chris.

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2 Nov 2005 - 6:18 AM

Thanks Chris, it seems to have done doesnt it. K.

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Ade_Osman e2 Member 114521 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2005 - 7:12 AM

Isn't he back yet?....Ah well more time to polish me shoe leather!

Ade

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2 Nov 2005 - 7:33 AM

very powerful image
sten

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sugar jones
2 Nov 2005 - 8:01 AM

Fantastic image K. Would be contender for me. First thing I thought of was jail for the 'inside' competition and then ship in a bottle etc etc
Not an easy one though for something different.
Haven't entered! Good luck missus, like this a lot.
Could see it up next for the NSPCC ad campaigns! Very powerful.
SugarJ*

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daringdaphne
2 Nov 2005 - 10:28 AM

I thought this was a journalistic picture of some Island off Japan recently on the news for putting children in jail with adult sex offenders etc. I did not realise that it was the UK. Yes, of course children are harm greiviously when parted from their mother. This is an important picture therefore as it highlights the problem and will find others venues for it's protest too. Well-done

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Ian G W  11396 forum posts England3 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2005 - 5:55 PM

This is stunning, and must be seen by a wider audience.

Ian.

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so strong. so terribly strong. an uppercut of a photo

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3 Nov 2005 - 4:36 AM

Thanks everyone for the comments and Pete for the HC. K.

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
3 Nov 2005 - 6:13 AM

never noticed this on the 31/10, very powerful.

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thorn  10124 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Nov 2005 - 2:25 AM

Hi K,excellent manipulation,love the lighting,shading,tones,detail,textures and dof.Astoundingly composed with a very stong message.Take care.AnnSmile

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amps  11225 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Nov 2005 - 5:09 AM

Yes .... OUTSTANDING ..!!!!

wish i could spend more time keeping up with the postings. Alan

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7 Nov 2005 - 10:37 AM

Thanks all Smile K.

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vaughar  10242 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Nov 2005 - 6:30 AM

Excellent image and amazing lighting to my eye.

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thewaiter
thewaiter  131177 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
9 Nov 2005 - 1:49 AM

well captured, and very thought provoking

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kinfatric
kinfatric  10550 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
10 Nov 2005 - 8:15 AM

Very thought provoking jails aren't for kids but in some women's institutes babies are interred with their mother's until a given age!

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
11 Nov 2005 - 2:33 AM

Thank you all so much. K.

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RoyBoy
RoyBoy  10173 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
11 Nov 2005 - 12:21 PM

Its me again K

Having just posted a comment o your "Love Hurts" image I then go back to your portfolio and find this one. Another excellent image with a very strong message. Like it very much.

Roy

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ajtorres
ajtorres e2 Member 10ajtorres vcard Argentina
11 Nov 2005 - 8:07 PM

Outstanding composition.
Thanks for your comment on my picture. Will start over.
Alejandro.

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14 Nov 2005 - 12:48 AM

Thank you both very much. K.

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Nic_WA
Nic_WA  10179 forum posts Australia2 Constructive Critique Points
16 Nov 2005 - 12:07 AM

Still keep coming back to this one...so surprised it got an HC not an EC as I think it's one of the most powerful images I've seen here on epz.
Hope all's good in your world K.

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
16 Nov 2005 - 2:20 AM

Nic thanks, obviously didnt quite hit the spot as far as EC's go, I hoped it might but cant have everything. Alls well here yes, thanks hope you are too. Smile K.

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User_Removed
29 Nov 2005 - 7:22 AM

Yay! Now, let's see more of this kind of work. Fantastic. Really thoughtfull and evocative.
best wishes,
Simon

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6 Dec 2005 - 1:36 AM

Thank you Simon. K.

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MikeCh
MikeCh  10
8 Dec 2005 - 11:42 PM

Amazing, love it.

mike

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madgirl
madgirl  8
22 Dec 2005 - 12:33 PM

Very strong love it
Sharon

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himel
himel  1061 forum posts
8 Jan 2006 - 3:22 AM

very touchy picture...



Himel

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jan 2006 - 9:07 AM

Thank you Smile

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stevem
stevem  10238 forum posts United Kingdom
9 Jan 2006 - 10:23 AM

Sort of a Dickensian interpretation of the article? An evocative image nevertheless, superbly done.

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6 Feb 2006 - 12:18 AM

Thank you, yes a similar interpretation. K.

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andmolliethedog

My sort of photograph ..has everything..childline poster as an alternative,I know its not the original idea..but its so haunting.
Would have loved to have created this.

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9 Feb 2006 - 1:36 AM

Thank you for your comment, its very much appreciated. K.

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andmolliethedog

With all the comments already its difficult to say anything that has not been said...so will use one word...magnificent

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deviant
deviant  103024 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jul 2006 - 12:25 PM

Absolutely superb image to illustrate your point. Brilliant.
D

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7 Jul 2006 - 12:33 PM

Thank you both. k.

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55jase  9186 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
3 Sep 2008 - 4:47 PM

Very strong and needs to be.
Jase

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