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The sun actually behind thin clouds. But it still over exposure, how do I avoid that?. And is it better to make it the house as silhoutte and make the sky more dramatic?

Brand:FUJIFILM
Camera:Fujifilm FinePix S2950HD
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:4 Aug 2012 - 6:28 AM
Focal Length:17.1mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.1
Aperture:f/4.6
Shutter Speed:1/320sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:Morning Sky
Username:arhab arhab
Uploaded:22 Sep 2012 - 10:33 AM
Tags:Landscape / travel, Sky, Sunrise
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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
22 Sep 2012 - 10:57 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I think whether or not you make this a silhouette, it would be preferable to have all of the house in the frame rather than crop off its base. The sun is still a little too central for me so a composition with all the house and the sun on the left hand third woulf IMHO make a much better overall composition.

Regarding exposure, looking at your histogram it shows fairly good exposure, but not being an expert on PS it may fool the histogram when ahving such bright sun in the sky and a foreground in the shadow. I suppose there are two ways of looking at this apart from the histogram.

Firstly, I always used to tilt the camera down and lock the exposure for the shadows detail before exposing, the other way would be to adjust your exposure compensation, checking your viewfinder afterwards until you are happy with what you have. It will be impossible to ahve correct exposure for both the sky and the foreground.

Frank

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Jestertheclown
22 Sep 2012 - 8:39 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Your camera's sensor has been confused by the brightness of the sky next to the dark building and earth and the camera's tried to compromise as it's exposed the image.
The histogram reaches both sides but there's a peak, unsurprisingly, in the centre which represents the sun.
There's quite a bit of detail to be found in the building; it's not cropped, there's just not much foreground.
I've uploaded a mod. in which I added a duplicate layer, which I adjusted using curves to lighten the building.
I then used the history brush to expose the original image, leaving the parts (the building and trees) which I'd just altered.
Finally, I flattened it and saved it.
It was all done quite quickly and it probably shows!
You'd get a better result using (a copy of) your much larger original.

Hope this helps.

Bren.

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arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
22 Sep 2012 - 10:13 PM

thank you Frank, Bren. actually i have some series with differnt setting. all of them looks similar with over expose on sun. there is one on my pf if you want to see. so, i guess the best way is i will not take a shoot on the sun directly.

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Jestertheclown
22 Sep 2012 - 10:49 PM

Hi arhab,

I've just looked at your other shot and as you say, there's a similar problem.
Shooting directly into the sun's never a good idea anyway. For one thing, it's not at all good for your eyes!
Seriously, try positioning yourself so that the sun is to your side. You can experiment by positioning it farther backwards or forwards and see how your shots turn out.
You might need to adjust your exposure to suit the subject and ignore the sky, experimentation will tell you how best to balance the two but you'll find with practice that it can be done.
I'll wager you'll still get some impressive skies but your shots will be better generally exposed.

Good luck!

Bren.

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41177 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
22 Sep 2012 - 11:14 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The problem you have is that the sun, even though behind thin cloud, is so bright compared the everything else. If you exposed for the sun, everything else would be so far underexposed as to block up the shadows and rob you of any detail.

Better to think about excluding the sun from the frame altogether when it's high in the sky. Only within a few minutes of sunrise and sunset is it within the dynamic range of the camera. Cloud cover will take the brightness down but not enough when it's like this.

Nick

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
23 Sep 2012 - 5:08 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I don't think you are over exposed. There is detail right up to the sun and whiilst less exposure would produce a good image it would be nearer a silhouette. I just think you needed a bit more foreground to balance the composition.

Paul

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