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Just learning photography. And the only camera that I got is a camera in my phone (Samsung C322). Need advice from the master Smile

Brand:Samsung
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:7 Jan 2012 - 9:44 AM
Focal Length:2.9mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.6
Aperture:f/2.8
Shutter Speed:1/15sec
ISO:50
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:No Flash
Title:Work On The Problem
Username:arhab arhab
Uploaded:18 Feb 2012 - 1:31 PM
Tags:Portraits / people
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Scutter
Scutter e2 Member 71742 forum postsScutter vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2012 - 6:18 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I would have liked to see the whole head of the student and less of the whiteboard, I love the light on his hand. Have you considered converting it to black & white? Smile

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arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2012 - 6:49 PM

The light coming from the left side window, still morning around 9 AM. The light was soft. I've tried to cut off the white board and convert to black and white as you suggest. And, Ben ... your advice is really brilliant. My picture looks better than ever. I insert picture modifications, according to your advice.

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mhfore  7 England176 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2012 - 7:34 PM

Hi Muhamad,

First off it's a good subject to capture, I take on board that this image could work in mono but in my opinion only I think there is to much black in the hat and hair for this to be balanced. I would much prefer a balance of colour to bring out the face, pure white shirt and white board. I have posted a quick mod, a bit sloppy I know, as portraiture is not my forte but it will give you an idea of what I mean.

Keep taking images and uploading as it does appear you'r Samsung as a good camera.

Martin

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arhab
arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2012 - 8:28 PM

Hi Martin,

thanks for the advice. I did not realize before, that colors images we take, must be balanced first. I've tried using Photoscape adding effects backlight, auto levels, auto contrast in the image. And as modifications have you done, my picture becomes brighter, especially in the back that it was dark.

Now my knowledge of lighting increases. Of course I will continue to take pictures, although the weapon is only a phone camera.

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Jestertheclown
18 Feb 2012 - 9:09 PM

Phone cameras these days are probably at least as good as a cheap compact. I've got a Samsung Wave, which has a more than adequate camera built into it.

I see you've been trying 'Photoscape' which isn't bad as a free editor and that you mention their 'backlight' feature which is a tool that I've used quite a few times in the past.

There's a lot of other free editors out there, most of which are worth a look too. You might like to try a few others. If you'd like to know more, just ask on here. Everyone seems to have a favourite!

Hope this helps.

Bren.

Edit: Sorry Muhamad, I've just noticed that this is your first upload, so welcome to Epz!

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 18 Feb 2012 - 9:11 PM

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arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Feb 2012 - 3:27 AM

Yes Brendan, this is my first upload. And like you said, maybe the camera on the phone today as good as cheap compact camera.

I've heard the expression, this is not about the weapons we use. but the person behind the weapon. Even so, we must know the limitations of our weapons.Smile

Previously I used IrfanView to edit simple picture. But, I find Photoscape is easier to use and more complete.

Thank you Brendan for your attention. This is an honor for me, got the attention of you all.

Last Modified By arhab at 19 Feb 2012 - 3:29 AM

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DRicherby  6269 forum posts United Kingdom725 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 5:57 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I rather like this. You've homed in on the important things: his head doing the thinking and his hand doing the writing. You could probably crop it even tighter -- since you've cropped off the back of his head, there's no reason not to crop off the top of the hat, too, and get in really close. Maybe just below the line that starts "1/-4^3"?

You mention that you used auto-levels and auto-contrast. I'd recommend avoiding most auto-things and taking more control over the process to get the image you want. In this case, they've done a pretty good job for you but they're just guessing about what you want to achieve, whereas you know.

Dave.

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arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 6:28 PM

Previously, I want to crop like you said, but i did'nt know why my hands are not working properly. and I would love be able to use manual settings. I will try it Dave,...

thank u for your input Dave...

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NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2012 - 11:59 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

great subject matter and basic composition. you would achieve great results with a dslr.

the crop at the back of the neck is a little tight and results in a bright highlight that is distracting . you could either include all the head but im not sure i would have either, or crop a little more off to lose the bright bit.

the face is a little too dark for me and you could have improved that at the taking stage by getting some one to hold a white card to bouce somne light back on the face. it seems to be falling nice on the hand.

i agree that with some more light pushed back on the face and a mono conversuion, this would be a great shot. (and also the type that sells )

regards
Phil

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arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
6 Mar 2012 - 6:20 AM


Quote: Great subject matter and basic composition. you would achieve great results with a dslr.
Yes, but now, you should familiarize yourself to see photos from cameraphone Phil Grin

the crop at the back of the neck is a little tight and results in a bright highlight that is distracting . you could either include all the head but im not sure i would have either, or crop a little more off to lose the bright bit.
I can not see in which disturbing, Phil. I am not familiar with this kind of lighting

the face is a little too dark for me and you could have improved that at the taking stage by getting some one to hold a white card to bouce somne light back on the face. it seems to be falling nice on the hand.
This is new to me Phil, but I can try it.

i agree that with some more light pushed back on the face and a mono conversuion, this would be a great shot. (and also the type that sells )
Thank you Phil....Grin
regards
Phil

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