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Hello everyone, Im a new member and this is my first submission in this catergory (other is a cat in the pet section!).

I love the implied nude, deep darkness and scultptured body-form of this picture.

The story behind this photo.
ages ago I saw a Revlon advert with Cindy Crawford. It was a colour photo, and I looked at it and thought that it was absolutely crying out for a black and white treatment. It seemed a crime that it wasnt monochrome!
So I decided to put the matter right. I figured out the lighting, and with another photographer (Ian Parker) spent hours reproducing the effect. Got a lovely picture with a model called Wendy.
This is not that picture.
Anyway, my active participation in photography died for a while, and recently I have decided to re-invigorate my photography.
So I booked a studio and a model, and thought What the **** am I going to do?
For some insanely masochistic reason I decided to try to re-create the tricky lighting of that favourite picture.
And to my surprise, the old dog had not lost his tricks, and I got the effect!
Not only that, I managed to improve on the first attempt!
So heres the result, with huge thanks to the model, Jennie, who worked very hard and with great patience! Thanks also to Myk of Bakery Studios, superb chap and great studio.
I absolutely promise my next posting will not have a long crappy story attached to it!!

Camera:Canon 1Ds mark II
Lens:70-300 DO
Recording media:digital iso 100
Title:Jennie in darkness
Username:Bogwoppett Bogwoppett
Uploaded:4 Aug 2005 - 1:23 AM
Tags:Nude / glamour
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davidbailie
davidbailie e2 Member 11451 forum postsdavidbailie vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 1:25 AM

Well done - like it a lot too - welcome

Dave

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012610 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 1:26 AM

I dont often read descriptions because I think it can confuse the mind on what you are supposed to see. But I read yours and made up my mind on the picture before I did. Your description made me laugh, you picture astounds me, the lighting is fabulous, I would love to know your secret. Keep them coming. K.

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paulstefan
paulstefan  10509 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 1:28 AM

Definitely worth the effort, Steve. The lighting and pose are very good - what makes it for me is the lighting on her hair which looks super in the larger version
Welcome to EPZ too Smile
cheers, Paul

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 1:30 AM

thanks for the welcome!! and thanks for your great comments, guys!

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Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318461 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 1:32 AM

Good control of lighting

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Dennie
Dennie  10260 forum posts United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 1:34 AM

FANTASTIC , you've managed to create excatly what you was after. Well done on a fantastically lit image. Denise xx
Ps.I thought it was a wonderfull description

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tull
tull  11181 forum posts United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 1:36 AM

Just awesome a wonderful portrait of the highest calibre. A well deserved HC

Mark.

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Big_Beavis
Big_Beavis e2 Member 9Big_Beavis vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 1:41 AM

What an amazing shot, fantastic lighting and composition.

David

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pikey
pikey  11861 forum posts
4 Aug 2005 - 1:51 AM

Excellent lighting and fantastic range of tones....

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kaybee
kaybee  103911 forum posts Scotland24 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 1:56 AM

As soon as I saw the thumbnail I thought that I had seen the picture before and this must be a repost.......now I know

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rclewett
rclewett  10
4 Aug 2005 - 1:59 AM

Fantastic lighting...Really Like it

RUSS

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Boyd
Boyd  1111213 forum posts Wales11 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 2:00 AM

Top quality shot and a great description too.

Excellent.

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 2:03 AM

that cindy crawford advert was from roughly 1990 i think, Kaybee, I'm impressed you can remember it!!

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ChunkyButFunky
4 Aug 2005 - 2:03 AM

Wonderful lighting and pose, one to be proud of.

Lisa

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conrad
conrad  1010877 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 2:21 AM

Absolutely wonderful, both the pose and the lighting, especially the backlighting. And I love long stories in picture descriptions...

Conrad

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vparmar
vparmar  10 United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 2:27 AM

amazing lighting and composition, excellent pose and very good description - click
vinny

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teena40
teena40  1066 forum posts
4 Aug 2005 - 2:32 AM

Yes its great, love the back lighting,love to know how you set this up.
Regards
Teena*

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simon butterworth

Great light.

Simon.

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bono
bono  10
4 Aug 2005 - 2:48 AM

Lovely shot well done

Bono

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ejtumman
ejtumman  102756 forum posts England
4 Aug 2005 - 4:00 AM

Love the shot and the lighting.... Great work

Emma ;o)

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silverwolf
silverwolf  13 United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 5:08 AM

Excellent lighting, great pose. Superb shot.

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mr g
mr g  10403 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 7:07 AM

Top shot!
Very well created
Rob

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kaybee
kaybee  103911 forum posts Scotland24 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 7:15 AM

1990?.....a mere yesterday.....and well done on the award

Roy

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 8:17 AM

thanks everybody, I really appreciate your kind comments! This is a great website(-I've been exploring it) with such constructive and positive appraisal, I really wish I'd found it a long time ago!
Thanks Roy, and I took a look at your profile - you had a Lubitel!! So did I! It was my first go at medium format. A cheap and simple camera. I think I sold it to someone for a fiver!! It inspired me to get a mamiya 645 (later moved on to Bronica ETRSi).

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Hoffy
Hoffy e2 Member 10241 forum postsHoffy vcard England16 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 9:29 AM

Very strong and dinamic b/w well done.

paul

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big fella
big fella  11485 forum posts England
4 Aug 2005 - 10:43 AM

Superb shot! The lighting, contrast, everything is spot on.

Wink

AndyD

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Toppix
Toppix  1056 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2005 - 11:03 AM

Its a very good photo indeed. Great composition and toning. I see you learned a bit from Ian then (in case you didn't know, he uses this site as Ginz04).
Ian

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hurstwood
hurstwood  1036 forum posts
4 Aug 2005 - 11:05 AM

Superb shot / lighting / effort.
Well Done.
Like IT
Alan

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hurstwood
hurstwood  1036 forum posts
4 Aug 2005 - 11:06 AM

Sorry, pressed twice. But the shot is worth two comments
Alan

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JohnHorne
JohnHorne  91023 forum posts
4 Aug 2005 - 11:27 AM

A stunning image. I'm not familiar with the photograph that inspired this, but here the lighting and pose are excellent. Click.
John

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 12:22 PM

thanks Alan, John, and Ian!
Didn't know he was on the site as Ginz04.
(Actually, in this case, it was a bit the other way round in terms of learning!!)
cheers
steve

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rf
rf  10 United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 12:24 PM

good pose and lighting.
like the highlights.

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silburkp
silburkp  10 England
4 Aug 2005 - 12:32 PM

Great composition. Very effectice use of light and perspective.

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pgarwood
pgarwood  1035 forum posts United Kingdom
4 Aug 2005 - 7:05 PM

Nice shot lighting effect is great

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
5 Aug 2005 - 12:25 AM

Thank you so very much everybody! It's been a really great introduction to the site and really encourages me to strive for the best possible image. I've been exploring the site and I feel like a little child in wonderland! The quality of pictures here is stunning and I've lost count of the number of times I've gone wow!! -Such a high standard!
I notice a couple of people have asked how? So here is a brief description as best as I can explain something that is tricky to get right!
Dark area, absolutely no reflective material around or on the floor. Use non reflective black fabric on floor.
The main light source is directly above the model.
You have to get the light spill VERY tight (just on the model) and VERY even. You will have to experiment because the light will also drop off in intensity with distance as well. I used a snooted light with a honeycomb grill to really control it. Otherwise you can drape a black cloth around the snoot and let it dangle below to close up the spill. Beware of the fire risk!!
For this pic, there is a second snooted light on the floor behind the model to light the hair and do a little rim lighting. Beware the light spill! Honeycomb grill again, but black cardboard in a roll will further tighten the light.
Both lights were very close in this instance.
And then you play with positioning and exposures. Pay very close attention to where the light spills and the toning and the shadows on the model. I asked Jennie to tense herself in some areas to enhance certain muscles and add sculpting.

-good luck!
steve

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teena40
teena40  1066 forum posts
5 Aug 2005 - 12:52 AM

Thank you for takeing the time to explain, its so refreshing to have someone thats willing to give so much information on their shots, you will be a great help to the site.
Take care
Teena*

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
5 Aug 2005 - 1:08 AM

thanks Teena, like your shots!

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AngieLatham
9 Aug 2005 - 3:47 AM

hi Steve...just love your user name! I may haveto call my next cat Bogwoppet! Super nameSmile
This image is fantastic,even though I'm not one for nudes or portraits. The lighting is excellent. A great first upload and a HC to boot!
Welcome to EPZ and hope you enjoy your stay....be warned : It's addictive....very addictive.
Thanks for your comments on my PF too Smile
kind regards
Angie*

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paulcr
paulcr  101536 forum posts Ireland9 Constructive Critique Points
9 Aug 2005 - 3:59 AM

Hi Steve and welcome. This is a fantastic study.So well lit and composed. Deserves all the praise above. I look forward to more of your work especially if its of this calibre. Paul

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AnnieK
AnnieK  996 forum posts Spain
12 Aug 2005 - 1:55 PM

Just beautiful.

Annie

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
13 Aug 2005 - 8:37 AM

Thanks everybody!!!!!!!

steve

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Mariusz
Mariusz  9 Poland
24 Aug 2005 - 11:47 AM

perfectly done

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david j. green
9 Sep 2005 - 2:15 AM

A great shot, good pose and excellent lighting.

David

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UserRemoved
7 Nov 2005 - 7:37 PM

Well deserving of the HC. This really is a glorious Work Of Art. Beautiful in every way. The lighting is awesome. The model's smooth skin tones are wonderfully captured. Contrast between light and shade is quite spectacular. Very impressive.

Yan

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starstriders
19 Dec 2005 - 4:20 AM

The lighting is really good on this one. Excellent pose too.

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andmolliethedog

Its easy to see why this is so highly regarded..wish I had this amount of skill..top class.

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