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I decided to put up a simpler picture next.
It's not flash or showey, but I love it's mood and feel.
I feel it draws you in, and you empathise with the subject.

Taken with available (day)light. Model is Jessica, who is normally a lot more cheerful. However I asked her to think of a loved one who has had to go far away into danger, and that really put the mockers on her!
-miserable *** aren't I?!!!

Hope you like it!

Camera:Canon 1Ds Mk II
Lens:70-300 ef DO
Recording media:difital iso100
Title:Thoughts
Username:Bogwoppett Bogwoppett
Uploaded:6 Aug 2005 - 2:51 PM
Tags:Portraits / people
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jeanie
jeanie e2 Member 105978 forum postsjeanie vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
6 Aug 2005 - 2:55 PM

Nicely converted to black and white. I might just crop the top of the image where you can see the edge of the cushion.
Jeanie

edit - I have tried the crop to see if it works. Put the result in the mod section for you to look at.

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
6 Aug 2005 - 3:00 PM

Well spotted Jeanie, you put your finger on it!
i spent a while debating cropping the top, but then i felt it got a lttle too tight and claustophobic. Still can't decide what to do about it!
So I thought if you can't be sure, then stop messing with it, and left the shot as it was in the viewfinder. Trust first instincts when you're full of doubt!
steve

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jeanie
jeanie e2 Member 105978 forum postsjeanie vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
6 Aug 2005 - 3:02 PM

Glad you don't mind. I just found that dark area at the top distracting, and draws the eye away from the main focal point (the model)

Jeanie

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nigelo
nigelo  9
6 Aug 2005 - 3:05 PM

nice shot

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
6 Aug 2005 - 3:06 PM

i think you are right, jeanie, thanks.
also teena, intresting mod, how did you do it?
steve
(ps. still learning photoshop!!)

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teena40
teena40  1066 forum posts
6 Aug 2005 - 3:06 PM

The black was distracting,I'v done a quick mod with a much tighter crop. hope you like it.
Teena*

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Sezz
Sezz e2 Member 9617 forum postsSezz vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
6 Aug 2005 - 3:09 PM

I have come back to this one a couple of times - decided I like it. From your description, the model's expression definately portrays a sense of sadness or foreboding, so works well. Agree with Jeanie, small crop off the top would make it more pleasing to the eye. Only my opinion and I like the capture.

Sez Smile

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Densek
Densek  9 France
6 Aug 2005 - 3:15 PM

I love the atmosphere, and also the smooth grey tones that fit perfectly this melancolic picture.
About the crop, I think you're so plunged into the model's look, that it doesn't disturb the eye at all.
Congrats too for your other nude shot. Very impressive.
Keep them coming...
Denis

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teena40
teena40  1066 forum posts
6 Aug 2005 - 3:16 PM

Hi Steve, croped a little tighter, removed some distracting blemishes with the healing tool,and then i used the High Key effect in Virtual Photographer,a little plugin for PS, added a small border.
Teena*

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clintnewsham
clintnewsham e2 Member 10108 forum postsclintnewsham vcard England1 Constructive Critique Points
6 Aug 2005 - 3:56 PM

a cracking image and a lovely model, hope you dont mind me having a mod at the image.

click clint

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MarkT
MarkT  10119 forum posts England2 Constructive Critique Points
7 Aug 2005 - 12:40 AM

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MarkT
MarkT  10119 forum posts England2 Constructive Critique Points
7 Aug 2005 - 12:41 AM

Nice shot I mean.

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
7 Aug 2005 - 12:43 AM

hi guys, and thanks for your constructive comments - this is a really good site!

As this is a site that allows such things, then I believe a discussion is necessary regarding the mods.
teena, very interesting to see the result of the high key effect, made me think.
however i think it's too much. its like having a pic of a couple of cute puppies, then adding soft focus and sticking the pic on a box of chocolates. It strays into over-the-top sentimentality and the pic of two cute puppies doesn't need it, they're two cute puppies, they carry the pic!
And its my opinion that this does not need such a change!! Its an effective change and had me scratching my chin, don't get me wrong, but just not necessary.
However I'm becoming convinced you're right about cropping!

Perhaps I'll mod my own shot, hows that for a debate?!!

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
7 Aug 2005 - 12:49 AM

Clint! thanks i don't mind at all, it's interesting and strangely weird to have people mess with my little vulnerable shot - I have to guard against over-protectiveness!!

i think the smoothing is too much, for much the same two puppies as before.
the duo toning - i think i like the effect, but scratchy-chin and hmmms still ongoing!!

Good mod, though, i can see your point.

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
7 Aug 2005 - 12:52 AM

thanks MarkT! And superb self-protrait!!!!

steve

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kaybee
kaybee  103950 forum posts Scotland24 Constructive Critique Points
7 Aug 2005 - 1:07 AM

The concensus seems to be 'crop the top'.

I too added a modification (before reading any comments). I did it because you allowed it and it is sort of picture I like to play with.....not because I think your shot needs improving.
My opinion is (for what it is worth) that the author took and posted the shot - unless they asked for advice/help in how to alter/improve it, the shot stands as a good shot in the authors eyes and we have NO right to say otherwise.

I love your uploads so far and look forward to seeing many more


Roy

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silburkp
silburkp  10 England
7 Aug 2005 - 2:32 AM

An excellent result, most effective in black & white.

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ewanrayment
7 Aug 2005 - 1:58 PM

A beautiful shot, had a go at a mod - hope you don't mind! Its a great shot in the first place, I usually use the mod function (if someone has allowed it) to improve / practise my 'skills'.

In a high key mood at the moment so just trying that out.

Looking forward to seeing more pics - great ones so far!

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tmann
tmann  9 United States2 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2005 - 6:07 AM

Superb...
The moment and thought is so well captured!
The lighting and setting is great!
Great shot!
Thomas

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Mariusz
Mariusz  9 Poland
24 Aug 2005 - 11:49 AM

excellent photo, great soft light

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highlander
highlander  1032 forum posts Scotland
28 Aug 2005 - 1:02 AM

Lovely control on your light and the beauty is well represented in her expression of concentration...great exposure.
Doug.

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MoWiz
MoWiz  9114 forum posts United Kingdom
31 Aug 2005 - 5:53 AM

superb work, agree about cropping a little of the top, otherwise stunning
look forward to seeing more of your work
MO

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vismaya
vismaya  9 Ireland
31 Aug 2005 - 7:07 AM

Very nice shot.And thanks steve for commenting & clicking my picture.

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Bogwoppett
Bogwoppett e2 Member 9Bogwoppett vcard United Kingdom
31 Aug 2005 - 7:18 AM

thanks everybody for some great comments!!

There will be more pics coming soon, it's just a bit difficult right now!

And you've got a great dramatic/vivid style to your portraits, prem, that just jumps right out of the frame, -hope to see more!!

steve

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vparmar
vparmar  10 United Kingdom
1 Sep 2005 - 12:01 AM

great shot!
lovely pose!
looks great in B&W
vinny

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plugin  10 Canada
7 Sep 2005 - 12:05 PM

Wonderful shot! click
Jim

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Paper_cut
Paper_cut  9
17 Oct 2005 - 8:50 AM

Yeah really nice facial expression,
Totally connect with the picture love it
Jemmyx

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