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Emotion

15/06/2009 - 4:14 PM



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Following this thread I started in the forum, I think Pete hit the nail in the head with his comment regarding my PF.
Emotion.
I have always felt that my photos lack of something. And it is Emotion.
While I did try to do that when involve with people in my photos, but how do I do that with dog photos and nature?
If you have any ideas, please feel free to let me know....
Cheers.

* Oh, please join in that thread as well if you can... Smile

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Boyd
Boyd  1011213 forum posts Wales11 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jun 2009 - 9:56 PM

Warehouse Express are selling Emotion on discount at the moment - 5 litres for the price of 3! Free delivery too.
Might be worth hanging on though as rumour has it that they may be giving away a free soupçon of Finesse with every 14 litres of Emotion bought during the second equinox of the moon throughout the month of July.

To be serious for a moment Cole, how can anyone tell you how to feel? You either do or you don't.
Replicating emotion isn't feeling emotion.

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Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jun 2009 - 10:00 PM

good point...

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jun 2009 - 10:05 PM

I think what I need is what you think of dog portraits and nature with emotion. Then I can try to create my own, as I haven't got a clue at the moment.

For example, Pete's suggestion of looking at Tim Flach is a good one.

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Boyd
Boyd  1011213 forum posts Wales11 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jun 2009 - 10:09 PM

But to be honest Cole I think that calling your portfolio unemotional is a little disingenuous and possibly quite unfair.
It is obvious from your postings on the site that one of the greatest loves in your life are your dogs and they are quite patently well appreciated by the viewers of the gallery.

Also believe in yourself. Don't take the word of so-called experts as fact - they are only opinions. That includes editors of photography sites and especially photographers whose name begin with B.
Smile

Last Modified By Boyd at 15 Jun 2009 - 10:10 PM
Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jun 2009 - 10:13 PM

LOL...
I can see where Pete comes from though. I have long thought that though my works are technically fine, they lack of something. And I would really like to change that.

Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318443 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jun 2009 - 9:27 AM

Hi Cole...maybe emotion's the wrong word...it's a tricky one to describe. Some call it passion, which I don't agree is correct. My thinking is some people have an ability to capture more than a technically good photo and from your response I think you know where I'm coming from.

To be honest it doesn't matter if you can't add that extra non-technical element, but you asked for ways to improve. As far as I'm concerned you've had the technical quality fine-tuned for a long time. When we met at Focus I suggested the next step was to add a feeling of life, which you've done perfectly. Now to get that magically last bit. Your portfolio is fantastic and I don't think in what I said I'm being unfair.

Of course it's just an opinion, and some people value this and some clearly don't.

You clearly want to strive for better results and I admire that. Maybe Boyd can offer ways to improve? It would be far more constructive than just countering my suggestions.

A portrait book I read a few years ago explained perfectly. In a nutshell it involved spending an hour in a room without using a camera just looking into the eyes of the model...as time passed the unnaturalness of this changed and the real person came through, and then photographs were taken. I don't believe I could do that to take a portrait but I can understand how it would evolve.

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jun 2009 - 9:40 AM

Cheers Pete for your input once again, much appreciated.

I always want to improve my photography and I am getting more and more frustrating because of that. It just lacks of that 'something' in it. Passion, emotion, imagination, creativity....

I am not a very creative person, and I have to think and search really hard in order to get an idea, if any at all. Sometimes, I can see it, like those snakehead shots, I have had that in my mind for a long time. Most times, I just don't have any ideas at all.

That is why I wanted to look for sources, books, magazines, websites, for inspiration, how do I inject that magical something into my works.

Any suggestion is still very much welcome.

Cheers.

Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318443 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jun 2009 - 9:55 AM

When you study photography, part of the course is history. It requests that you study pioneering photographers and write about their images. While some where only good/great because they were technical the best at the time, others add that extra.

It's a good exercise to dig out a book on history and look through. Or for a snap shot check out this site Masters of Photography. See which photographers inspire you, and make you want to take a deeper attachment with the subject, especially if you have no interest in the subject matter. Then ask yourself why that is, what is it in the photo that spellbinds you - is it technically good or is there something else?

The greatest example for me was Julia Margaret Cameron, technically rubbish (out of focus and badly processed) but she had a special connection that made the photographs magical...

and the new health warning ,courtesy of Boyd - it's just an opinion.

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jun 2009 - 10:00 AM

Cheers, Pete. I will look into that.

Boyd
Boyd  1011213 forum posts Wales11 Constructive Critique Points
16 Jun 2009 - 3:15 PM

Sorry Pete but after rereading my previous posts it sounds as if I'm attacking you and that was never my intent.
As for my advice, like I said above I'm of the opinion that self-belief is one of the most important and fundamental qualities a photographer should develop and maintain.
HTH

fauxtography
17 Jun 2009 - 3:00 PM

One of the ways to tap into the emotion you feel in a photographic situation, is to strip back the technical considerations. Two of the best ways of achieving this is to, a: Have all the technical bits down so well that you never/rarely consciously consider them, this will allow you to concentrate on that connection. B: You can strip this away by limiting yourself... an example is buying a camera with limited settings, such as a Holga, this will force you to consider other things and you initial "vision" when seeing an image becomes more important.

Of course you could look at images of a pictorial style and consciously decide that you want to introduce emotion into the images, using the appearance that Holga like cameras give is part way to doing this. You can imbue an image with feelings and resonance by the techniques applied to it.

Of course what you have to decide is what emotion you want to portray then figure out how to do it.

Hmm I bet this has not helped one bit! lol Wink

Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318443 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
17 Jun 2009 - 3:13 PM


Quote: Hmm I bet this has not helped one bit!

No it's a very good point. One article that's appeared in photo magazines every other year is shooting with limited kit. The 50mm standard lens is the usual example. It's the nearest lens to the focal length of the eye. No zoom to consider, just a really sharp lens that you had to work hard with to get the right composition.
I have an old Leica 3F that I still sometimes use and it's a real different approach.

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
17 Jun 2009 - 3:21 PM

I might try that.
One camera one lens.
Tried that with LB composer before, quite interesting.

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