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Brand:Fuji
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
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Username:Colin01 Colin01
Uploaded:18 Apr 2011 - 12:36 PM
Tags:Close-up / macro, Flowers & plants
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JackAllTog
JackAllTog e2 Member 53547 forum postsJackAllTog vcard United Kingdom58 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2011 - 2:33 PM

Hi Colin, a long time no posts.
I clicked throught to this image as i wanted to vote one it as i liked the composition adn colours.


This is tricky to critique as there is no camera/lens/iso/aperture detail.
But i'll assume its a D60 with a macro lens for now as the DOF is quite shallow ( a compact would have greater DOF)
I'm assuming its about ISO200 as the colours are a bit muted and the aperture is about f5.6 as its a bit soft?

In terms of imporvement here, a lower ISO is always great - so ISO 100 if possible and a smaller apertutre f8 to f11 say would help with sharpness. But this will mean a much slower shutter speed so a tripod and no wind to move the flower will be essential. So this may not be possible outside.
The bright white on the RHS may be slightly over cooked so putting a difuser above the flower may soften the harshness of the light.

Still a lovely shot though. Vote +1

Cheers,
Stuart

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1578 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2011 - 4:18 PM

Hello, Colin. I was surprised to see that you joined in 2009 and that this is the only picture in your portfolio. However, from the comment above, I assume you have uploaded before.
Stuart has mentioned the lack of shooting details, which are important in order for people to give you a better critique. Stuart has also mentioned the shallow dof, and I'd like to have seen the stamens much sharper, with the petals blurred behind them. The strong light on the right has burnt out some of the petals and has produced a play of highlights on some other petals, which is a shame. Shooting when the light is less intense would help tremendously. There is rather a jumble of stamens in the very centre, which you couldn't have done anything about, but that particular area is very dark and lacks definition. Maybe a touch of flash would have been helpful here. You have placed your stamens central in the frame, so I have given you my idea of a different composition in my modification, where the stamens are offset. I cropped and added canvas to the left, to give a square format, then cloned in some more petals. My cropping eliminated some of the white areas, and I cloned in some colour into the other highlight patches, then tried to put some detail and colour back into the right side. I then brightened the image, reduced highlights and lifted shadows (for the centre), upped the saturation, adjusted levels and sharpened. I thought your black frame was a bit too heavy for a delicate flower, so changed it. My second modification has the image mirrored, so that it "reads" from left to right.
Pamela.

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4209 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom128 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2011 - 5:58 PM

This is a very pretty image. The colours of the petals are really beautiful. Pamela's mods to stamens correct what would be my main point. That some stamens are merging into a dark mass. The aim of a close up like this is usually to show the fantastic details in the stamens. I like her reversed image more for some reason.
The light looks too contrasty and has created shadows. With a flower portrait it is usually best to avoid shadows and bring out the details and colours. I personally take most my flower pics with fairly bright but diffused daylight and never in direct sunlight. Bits of white boards are useful to use as reflectors to get some light into the darker areas. Use any bright light to shine through the thin petals to bring out veining and fine colour details.
Use the smallest aperture you can for max depth of field to get most of the stamens in focus.
As pointed out above, details of the shot would help, was it inside or out of doors, camera setting, lighting etc.
regards, Ian

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom843 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2011 - 6:02 PM

We need more info to comment really. Both mods are an improvement - as the main problem is lighting. Your light is all in one spot low on the right when you actually needed it centre left on middle of the bloom.

Paul

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Colin01
Colin01  5 United Kingdom
19 Apr 2011 - 9:27 AM

Thank you for your comments and i will take them on board as for the camera it's a fuji finepix s 1800 iam only a amerture so ay remarks will be gratefull and i will now make notes as i take the picture.
thanks again Colin

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Colin01
Colin01  5 United Kingdom
21 Apr 2011 - 10:28 AM

I like the modification you did the image pamelajean can you tell me if this was done in photoshop and how you improved it.
Colin

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pamelajean
pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1578 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2011 - 5:36 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hello again, Colin. I use PaintshopPro, but most of the options correspond to those in Photoshop, although they may be called something else.
CROP: This should be straightforward.
ADD CANVAS: I use the "Add Borders" option, and I added enough on the left to make a square format, watching the dimensions given.
CLONE: This tool replicates other areas of an image. I copied the petal stripes into the added border area. Cloning colour into the bright highlighted areas is done the same. I took detail from the petals and transferred it to the highlights, but with quite a low opacity brush because I wanted it to be subtle.
You should be able to find the Brightening/Lightening option, and also the Highlights/Shadows option. Just adjust these until you are happy with the results. Saturation increased the colour intensity.
LEVELS: An important option, one that a lot of people go to as a first step in their editing. I have an automatic levels adjuster and will start with that, then see what I think, and adjust to my requirements.
SHARPENING: I used a High Pass Sharpen, I find that it doesn't produce too much noise in an image, and the Soft Light option is quite gentle. Unsharp Mask is another adjustable option, rather than just using the "Sharpen" option, where you have no control.
FRAMING: I think you must know how to do this, because you have used framing here.
If you want any further information, just send me a Private Message.
Pamela.

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