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Decided to upload in the order in which they probably should be seen following a comment by Dan. See below

This is a style of bird portrait that I like. These either tend to bomb on here or if they get an HC then they can scrape an RC

So make of it what you will, lack of votes won't stop me taking them as they look great printed large.

The OOF blur is caused by leaf litter.

forestnil
Great shot, especially like the dof on this.
Martin

culturedcanvas
I too like this style of shot .. on occasion .. but this one doesnt work for me at all. The dof is too distracting in this instance with not enough space for the head of the bird. Whilst it could create a sense of intimacy for me it fails as my attention is elsewhere ....

Dan

csurry
Probably needs a bit cropping off the bottom Dan.

Was really experimenting with the 51AF points during this and seeing if it helped getting the focus spot on the eye. Which it does, but it also complicates composition. There are just so many places to frame where good focus can still be achieved (when not using manual or focus-lock - neither of which was being tested here).

Will add another variation in a moment to see if that improves things.

Thanks

mohikan22
Certainly works for me but i do prefer number 2. has that little mroe "punch" to it.

matt.

Wil re-upload the other two versions as well.

Camera:Nikon D300 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:200-400
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:Goshawk Portrait
Username:csurry csurry
Uploaded:22 Nov 2007 - 11:23 AM
Tags:Accipiter gentilis, D300, Goshawk, Juvenile, Pets / captive animals, Portrait
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pmorgan
pmorgan  7217 forum posts England13 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:28 AM

Number 1 for me - stunning!

Rgds
Paul

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Cormy
Cormy  6 England
22 Nov 2007 - 11:31 AM

This is powerful,really good.

Alan.

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mohikan22
mohikan22  102180 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:36 AM

ok. same cmment as afor lol. like it alot but prefer number three. has a little more punch than two and doesnt look crowded to me as one.

matt.

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:38 AM

Fair enough Matt.

Cheers guys!

Just to prove I can take criticism and act upon it. Hopefully it won't prove as embarrasing as last time Smile

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riprap007  91568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:43 AM

prefer the crop of the second two, the third being my fave as the bright highlights are muted and therefore less distracting

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:44 AM

You just can't win with some images.

I think this variations gallery is a bad idea Wink

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49er
49er  7564 forum posts
22 Nov 2007 - 11:48 AM

I like No1.. then No2.. It all depends what you are thinking of. I agree (Cheryl) that some images may not look great here but work as a print. It's all about taste assuming the image ticks all the standard boxes,, ( in focus, well composed etc).
Also it depends if you like the subject matter.. I do so that gets me to click on the T/Nail..


Regards

Edgar

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HarryStan  950 forum posts Australia
22 Nov 2007 - 11:51 AM

No. 3 for me too...beautifully sharp

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franken
franken e2 Member 112913 forum postsfranken vcard Wales4 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:51 AM

The three of them are very good but i think version 1 is the best.

Ken

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:54 AM

See you just did that on purpose Pete! See reference to embarassing above Smile

Thanks all!

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chensuriashi e2 Member 7129 forum postschensuriashi vcard England17 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 12:14 PM

Number 1 would look great on my wall to contrast the large Owl shots I have, this is a superb shot. Chen.

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NickBrandon
22 Nov 2007 - 12:19 PM

An excellent shot.

Focused where it should be, I like this a lot, and congrats on the EC.

regards Nick

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FatHandedChap
22 Nov 2007 - 12:32 PM

Great capture, love that out of focus foreground.

Tony

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Chrism8
Chrism8 e2 Member 7729 forum postsChrism8 vcard England13 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 12:38 PM

Excellent shot, No 1 works for me

Chris

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paulstefan
22 Nov 2007 - 12:38 PM

Very nice indeed. I like them all.
Congrats too Smile
Cheers, Paul

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riprap007
riprap007  91568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 12:38 PM

I see your crystal ball is in good working order Wink

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geniehawk  7180 forum posts England
22 Nov 2007 - 12:47 PM

No. 3 gets my vote. Any Goshawk lover would be proud to own this.

Jeannie.

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GalleryGirl
22 Nov 2007 - 12:57 PM

Version 1 for me. Fabbie clarity.
Marilyn x

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Vilcens  639 forum posts Latvia3 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 1:01 PM

# 1

marvelous shot !

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 1:09 PM

Thanks everyone.

I think the initial idea of the shot using the leaves was a good one - mine Smile The Gos kept flopping down onto the floor and it looked good down there, if not better than on the branch it was supposed to be on. So on the old adage if you can't beat them...Why not take some pics in that position.

Probably would have cropped this at some point anyway, but I guess I'm a bit hung-up on what I was testing at the time of shooting with these D300 shots rather than the final image. Which is not a bad thing when you are testing a camera.

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22 Nov 2007 - 1:44 PM

Love this type of shot Cheryl and this is a real beauty.

Val

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22 Nov 2007 - 2:34 PM

Superb shot. No. 1 my favourite!

Alison

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conrad e2 Member 910870 forum postsconrad vcard 116 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 2:58 PM


Quote: tend to bomb

Looks like Pete was trying to prove you wrong, Cheryl!

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IanFlindt e2 Member 9739 forum postsIanFlindt vcard United Kingdom21 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 3:00 PM

No 1 for me, Cheryl. What a beauty. Many congrats on your EC.

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 3:10 PM


Quote: Quote:tend to bomb Looks like Pete was trying to prove you wrong, Cheryl!

My point entirely. If he hadn't intervened then who knows?

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graceland  92363 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 4:01 PM

WOW WOW WOW

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Mikelane  6 Wales
22 Nov 2007 - 4:28 PM

V1 for me excellent.Click .Well capt .
Mike

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Buffalo_Tom e2 Member 72322 forum postsBuffalo_Tom vcard Wales9 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 4:29 PM

Fantastic portrait.A winner for me.
Tom.

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Possum  7148 forum posts England
22 Nov 2007 - 5:32 PM

It's beautiful, Cheryl, made more so by the OOF foreground. Love this format, too.
Allie

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Assyrian  6132 forum posts Scotland
22 Nov 2007 - 5:44 PM

Love it personally.
Chris

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rontear e2 Member 11rontear vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 5:58 PM

Fantastic raptor, see these in Finland. Ron.

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 6:57 PM

Cheers all.

A first EC for the D300, is that a new record? A camera being awarded an EC before it is available in the shops Wink

Oh and apparently I have to make it known that it was Photography Monthly that lent me the camera Smile Which I had done in the forums, but for those that don't visit those dark pages.

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culturedcanvas
22 Nov 2007 - 6:58 PM

No 1 ... gone from a failure to a cracker. Now the effect is intimate and no longer distracting.

Superb.

Dan

PS - Where do I send the consultancy bill Wink

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 7:01 PM

You can have half an EC! Or a pint in Shearer's.

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culturedcanvas
22 Nov 2007 - 7:41 PM

I'll settle for the pint .... more useful than the EC Wink

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 8:18 PM

Well pop into Shearer's and tell 'em Cheryl sent you Smile

Actually you'd probably get more chance of a cup of coffee as the ladies in the St Jame's Cafe know me better.

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justin c  104504 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 8:22 PM

An excellent shot Cheryl. I'm not keen on the second or third versions, but the first one is a stunner,the contrast between the soft,diffused surroundings and the pin-sharp head of the bird is superb.
Congrats on the E.C.

Justin.

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chrissd  8304 forum posts United Kingdom
22 Nov 2007 - 8:42 PM

No 1 !! draws you straight to the point of interest and...................keeps it there

chris

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 9:21 PM

Thanks guys

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culturedcanvas
22 Nov 2007 - 9:45 PM

Just been to Shearers and they said you hadn't paid the tab since the last time you were ... to use their phrase ... "entertaining men" there ... was a bit red faced about it so I left quickly Wink

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Rob_Taylor  10659 forum posts Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:13 PM

......version 1 for me, superb, congrats Smile

Rob

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sherlob e2 Member 82199 forum postssherlob vcard United Kingdom119 Constructive Critique Points
22 Nov 2007 - 11:37 PM

Cheryl you collect EC's as others collect RC's - beautiful image - well deserved!

Adam

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22 Nov 2007 - 11:41 PM

Congratulations on EC - excellent image, would love to see the print

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23 Nov 2007 - 8:19 AM

version 1 for me too...Smile

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
23 Nov 2007 - 8:24 AM


Quote: Cheryl you collect EC's as others collect RC's - beautiful image - well deserved!

Adam

Well if you're gonna have a fan it may as well be Pete Wink

Cheers all.

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chase Critique Team 81104 forum postschase vcard England231 Constructive Critique Points
23 Nov 2007 - 9:51 AM

Hmmm you certainly have been busy...well done Cheryl,lovely photography work.

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gerdoms  9239 forum posts England7 Constructive Critique Points
23 Nov 2007 - 10:41 AM

terrific shot the square format is better though all are high quality.

gerry

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23 Nov 2007 - 4:36 PM

Super sharp- great format.No 1. For me it needs 10% reduction of blue to give the birds head a realistic colour.

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pennyspike  102068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
23 Nov 2007 - 4:56 PM

Works very well for me, I love the muted colours. Congratulations on the EC.

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gemeit  978 forum posts Scotland
24 Nov 2007 - 1:05 AM

To busy on the lower right hand corner for me nice detail in the eye

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carrot_heid
24 Nov 2007 - 8:06 PM

i think something must have moved in front of the lens but the eye is sharp

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
24 Nov 2007 - 8:14 PM


Quote: I think something must have moved in front of the lens but the eye is sharp

That's a joke I presume.


Quote: To busy on the lower right hand corner for me nice detail in the eye

As I said, people either tend to love or hate these, usually I do them with less colour as the OOF foreground, but this was just a different take on it.


Quote: Super sharp- great format.No 1. For me it needs 10% reduction of blue to give the birds head a realistic colour.

You could be right, but like the previous ones was processed from the jpeg and I did no colour adjustment. Don't tend to mess with colour except in a RAW covertor.

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carrot_heid
24 Nov 2007 - 9:14 PM

no I was serious.. it's all blurred can,t you see that

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
25 Nov 2007 - 8:55 AM

Er yes, it's called a shallow DOF effect by using something that is too close to the lens to focus to create a diffused blur of colour. It has nothing to do with movement.

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Ian_Llewellyn
25 Nov 2007 - 9:10 AM

Excellent

Ian

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carrot_heid
25 Nov 2007 - 6:33 PM


Quote: Er yes,

Rather patronising response. I know what DOF is. You,ve just overdone it I feel. I didn,t say say it had anything to do with movement.

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
25 Nov 2007 - 6:50 PM


Quote: I think something must have moved in front of the lens but the eye is sharp

Nothing moved in front of the lens, it was composed that way!

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riprap007  91568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
25 Nov 2007 - 6:54 PM

LOL C

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carrot_heid
25 Nov 2007 - 10:35 PM

I don,t think it deserves an EC but you seem to have a few others that don,t so try to get your next one in focus Smile

Pete must like you Smile

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riprap007  91568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 1:39 PM

what! stange, very strange!

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 7:12 PM

Great job shooting through the foreground. Sharp as can be. Not sure about carot head..lol....

Patrick

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 9:08 PM


Quote: I don,t think it deserves an EC but you seem to have a few others that don,t so try to get your next one in focus

Pete must like you

Yawn!, heard it all before. All ECs have to be taken in context of the time they were issued.

In the meantime you might like to check this out.

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MrsS e2 Member 74527 forum postsMrsS vcard England18 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 9:51 PM

It's ok - considering the blurry fg Wink Wink



Gr8 to finally meet you Cheryl - - and THIS is a WELL deserved EC IMHO Smile

Fran xx

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carrot_heid
27 Nov 2007 - 7:30 PM


Quote: Yawn!, heard it all before

I have never seen an exclamation mark directly followed by a comma. An exclamation mark signifies the end of a sentence; much the same as a full stop. Before you start being placing so much importance on other people's grammar, be careful with your own. Everyone takes shortcuts with email.. I'm no exception.

You are starting to bore me now Smile

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csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 8:01 PM

And yet still you come back to respond.

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scotland_in_digital

Well csurry
This is picture is mind blowing, great detail outstanding, I would be really proud to have taken this myself and have it in my collection.

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Emmog  538 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
15 Jan 2010 - 8:06 PM

I like this shot. The crisp head and eye lead you to the Goshawk. Superb
Matt

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