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Uploading at a quiet time, in a hope not many people will see this Smile

Tried a few ideas, but couldn't really decide.

Camera:Nikon D3 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:24-70 @ 60
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Self-Portrait
Username:csurry csurry
Uploaded:18 Jul 2009 - 7:42 PM
Tags:Humour / fun, Portraits / people
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Group Event:Critique Buddies July 2009 - 2

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andytvcams
andytvcams  1210396 forum posts United Kingdom
18 Jul 2009 - 8:01 PM


Quote: Uploading at a quiet time, in a hope not many people will see this

Wrong. Wink

Andy...

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chase
chase Critique Team 91118 forum postschase vcard England242 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 8:16 PM

Well done Cheryl,I wouldn't have thought this was you,I like the idea of the anonymity in a SP.

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Terry L
Terry L e2 Member 11578 forum postsTerry L vcard England5 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 8:22 PM

Quite time, how wrong can one be, nice idea and I certainly wouldn't have guessed this was you.

Regards
Terry.

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Boyd
Boyd  1111213 forum posts Wales11 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 8:39 PM

Reminds me of someone...

Smile

Last Modified By Boyd at 18 Jul 2009 - 8:41 PM

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 8:45 PM

Hah, hah Boyd, well I did always like Clint Eastwood movies.

Thanks all. Was going to go for something totally anonymous.

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JJGEE
JJGEE  96362 forum posts England18 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 8:50 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Although I'm not in the buddy group cannot let this pass without a comment.

The concept of using the hat to give a sense of anonymity, we do not know it is really you Wink together with the arrangement of the lighting picking out certain features, such as the stitching is excellent.

The B&W conversion is particularly good with you having managed to convey the complete range of tones, something that lets a lot of B&W images down when viewing on a monitor.

In fact, for me, the quality is what I would expect to normally see on a darkroom print.

The only small observation I would make is that the lighting on your shoulders is not balanced, the right one being just a little stronger than the left

You may have had trouble deciding on an idea, but this one is certainly worthy of an upload,

Last Modified By JJGEE at 18 Jul 2009 - 8:51 PM

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shandoor
shandoor  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 9:21 PM

Very wrong not a quite time EVER reminds me of MAFIOSA love it a great shot super in mono very well done
Alexa

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RogBrown
RogBrown  73006 forum posts England10 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 9:43 PM

Veeeeeery nice Cheryl, but can't reconcile this with your pf shot. Agree with Boyd here! Smile
Rog

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pluckyfilly
pluckyfilly e2 Member 8293 forum postspluckyfilly vcard United Kingdom33 Constructive Critique Points
18 Jul 2009 - 9:57 PM


Quote: Quote:Uploading at a quiet time, in a hope not many people will see this Wrong.

Andy...

and I second this statement, different if not unusual

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10933 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2945 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2009 - 12:18 AM

This is good Cheryl, - love the hat and the backlighting



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Scutter
Scutter e2 Member 71742 forum postsScutter vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2009 - 10:20 AM

Great idea very well executed (wouldn't have expected anything lessSmile). (I am guessing this didnt help you - the expectation that yours would be good I mean). The lighting is very effective and although I agree that it might be better if the back light was balanced left and right of the shoulder I don't think it is critical. What is really well lit is the braiding and crown of the hat; it really shows off the texture.

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HectorRivera
19 Jul 2009 - 12:25 PM

Great lighting, well realized.

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2009 - 2:16 PM

Thanks all.

The reason it may not look much like my portfolio shot could be because I have lost nearly 3st in weight since that was taken.

The light at the back started more central, but probably me fidgeting to get central and I did not quite get that right.

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tigertimb
tigertimb  640 forum posts United Kingdom66 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2009 - 5:25 PM

Smile Smile Why am I not surprised Cheryl Wink

I was going to object because surely a portrait should convey something about the person and let you get to know them a little better. But on reflection this is you and hiding from the camera is exactly what I'd expect you to do, so in hiding you've revealed yourself!

And excellent job with the lighting combining the clarity of the face, silhouette and backlighting too.

Not sure if it would work or not, but I'd be curious to see a version with selectivly colouring that familiar hat?

Tim

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jul 2009 - 5:28 PM

Thanks Tim, I did consider leaving some colour, or going for a sort of sepia tone.

Indeed I don't like being in front of the camera, and that showed in every portrait that I tried to take, so thought why not try something like this.

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Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2009 - 12:46 PM

I am not sure.
I think the lighting is too much on your face, it is just a bit too wash out for me. I would like to see more play of highlight and shadow on the face as well, just like the hat.

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Scutter
Scutter e2 Member 71742 forum postsScutter vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2009 - 1:16 PM


Quote: I am not sure.
I think the lighting is too much on your face, it is just a bit too wash out for me. I would like to see more play of highlight and shadow on the face as well, just like the hat.

But that might show up the wrinkles..................not that there are any I'm sure Wink

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2009 - 2:05 PM

Nah I sort of agree Cole, but I put it down to my dodgy B&W conversion.

Plenty of wrinkles Ben Smile

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73919 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2009 - 5:46 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Cheryl I tend to be in agreement with Cole, the flash doesn't seem to be quite balanced, the face (RHS as you look) tends to be a bit bleached, and the rim lighting on the LHS (shoulders is a bit too strong), I would have prefered it a bit more like it is on the RH side.

I like the concept the sense of mystery, and you dont have to get the eyes in sharp focus Wink

The mono treatment is pretty effective - It may be worth looking at the channel blend to try to get more detail, a touch more of the blue or green channel should reveal a bit more detail (no not as much as in mine!!).

Oh and congrats on the diet

Last Modified By Nick_w at 20 Jul 2009 - 5:48 PM

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Pete Site Moderator 1318461 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jul 2009 - 8:41 PM

No way would I have thought this was you...and then I read 3 stone loss...blimey that rowing machine works then! Wink Well done.

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jul 2009 - 10:39 PM

Thanks all.

I agree the light is a bit harsh, I tried many variations in positioning the flashgun, but basically I think my conversion left a little to be desired. The idea of increasing the blue or green channel is probably correct, but since I stopped using a plug-in for this I find it hard to visualise the best settings with just the channel mixer (which is what I used). I found the image looked a little flat when I upped the green or blue from this setting, but maybe adding a gradient map after the conversion has increased contrast too much as well.

Yes Pete the rowing machine is working well. You never know at this rate I may be able to attend Focus and not be recognised by anyone that has not seen me for a while Wink Harder to keep losing now I am living in hotels again, but at least staying constant for now. Will need to try to push on to lose last 20lb.

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21 Jul 2009 - 10:42 PM

like it

di

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discreetphoton Site Moderator 103455 forum postsdiscreetphoton vcard United Kingdom20 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2009 - 11:53 PM

Jumping right in:
Bright spot near the right rear of the brim that could go.
There's a bit of light wrap on the hat, directly where your left eye would be. I still can't decide how I feel about it. On the one hand, it draws away from your face. On the other hand, it's shaped almost like a cat's eye, and for that reason, I quite like it. It also breaks up what would be a large expanse of even toning, which would weigh the hat down too much, I think.
Most of the other stuff's been covered. The lighting on the face actually looks okay on my screen, and I like the rimlit shoulders. Extra points for doing something different.
I guess at the next Focus we'll get an idea of how succesful Zorro's 'disguise' really was... Smile

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v8dunc
v8dunc  7333 forum posts Scotland4 Constructive Critique Points
27 Jul 2009 - 12:17 AM

Crit Buddy,i think all the technical points have been covered allready,i think the image portrays an air of mystery rather than a dislike of the wrong side of the camera.A strong moody image

Cheers Duncan

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