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I just feel something is missing and I don't know what ... Any advices on how to improve ?
Thank you,
Daniela

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 500D
Lens:EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:22 Aug 2012 - 1:45 PM
Focal Length:37mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/4.8
Aperture:f/5.0
Shutter Speed:1/80sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:400
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:As shot
Title:Craft
Username:DanielaS DanielaS
Uploaded:16 Sep 2012 - 2:27 AM
Tags:Clay, Clay pits, People, Photo journalism, Tradition, Traditional crafts
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RazvanD
RazvanD  4 United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
13 Sep 2012 - 5:46 PM

Great picture, i very much like the use of light. Well presented craftsman at work mastering his skills in making the pot.

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tonyguitar
tonyguitar e2 Member 232 forum poststonyguitar vcard Canada24 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 3:04 AM

Raz, [above], is correct. Not only is the pottery well designed smooth and even but so is this very well composed image. TG

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tonyguitar
tonyguitar e2 Member 232 forum poststonyguitar vcard Canada24 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 3:06 AM

PS: Nothing is missing. Leave 100% alone. TG

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NDODS e2 Member 43684 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom107 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 8:01 AM

An exceptionally fine piece, which has been captured using the very best of this gorgeous natural light.

Regards Nathan


Quote: PS: Nothing is missing. Leave 100% alone. TG

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chavender
chavender e2 Member 4226 forum postschavender vcard France1 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 8:09 AM

Great image.
Agree with the others, nothing is missing.

Bill

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 2164 forum postsalistairfarrugia vcard Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 1:08 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I like the composition but feel that a little bit of fill flash was needed to show the craftsman's face and expression better. Otherwise a warm spot light on his face from top left to balance against the light coming in from he window. As is, the picture is showing a lot of detail in secondary areas of the picture where maybe not much detail is needed, whereas your main subject is underexposed due to shadows.

Regardless it's a very good composition, but I think it's the better distribution of lighting that you think is missing.

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 7:46 PM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the lighting. Exposure is for highlights and spot on. I would have just liked thewindow frame, the brightest bit, left out by a slight change of viewpoint rather than cropping.

Paul

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pamelajean Critique Team 8831 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1638 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 8:35 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

It's good to be critical of your own photography, Daniela, but difficult if you cannot figure out what is "missing".
You have a successful image here, using natural light, which is gentle and not at all harsh, coming through the window.
You have cleverly included the important elements of pot, hands and a look of deep concentration on the potter's face, and the detail is good.
I don't think you needed to include your source of light within the frame, and quite like the modification that has been done.
The pot beneath the window is an eye-catcher, I keep wondering what it is, and it draws the eye from your subject, so cropping the right side is an option for you. At the time of shooting, you could have moved your camera more to the left and included a bit more of the potter's body and less of the window.
Pamela.

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tonyguitar
tonyguitar e2 Member 232 forum poststonyguitar vcard Canada24 Constructive Critique Points
16 Sep 2012 - 9:22 PM

With respect to Pamela and Paul. Both with more seniority than I. The window frame light source is a feature I would miss in this composition. It may be lessened slightly but not removed. As a student, I wonder why the light frame is not so desired? TG

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Jestertheclown
16 Sep 2012 - 11:13 PM

Personally, I'd like not to see the window as it's a distraction.
We know, or ay least we're given the impression that the image was taken using natural light, so in this instance, at least, I don't think that including the window itself is necessary.
That's my view anyway.
I've uploaded a mod. in which I've removed the window by cropping which isn't ideal but it does give some idea of what I mean.
Hope this helps.

Bren

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tonyguitar
tonyguitar e2 Member 232 forum poststonyguitar vcard Canada24 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2012 - 1:22 AM

Different tastes I guess. Interesting to see your mod, however, now something is missing. Just opinion.... no offense I hope. TG

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10988 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2984 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2012 - 2:42 AM

Firstly it is a good shot.


A few comments that may be repeats, and perhaps some new ones.

The shot doesnt have a single focal point, its supposed to be the clay pot, and the hands of the potter, but two things bother me. First is that object lower right that instantly attracts my eye, - its might be a shot on its own; and the second, and for me more bothersome is that vertical bar leading the eye right out of the frame. I know its there, its supposed to be there, but look at what its lke when its not there. The eye is now limited to the subject. I would also use the side of the window frame as a guide for vertical.

The subject is very nice. it can be a little sharper, and theres a little too much red ( for me at least) in the colour. It is also a shot that is ideally suited to a mono treatment.


I have uploaded 2 mods, first as described, and second as a toned mono.

I would be interested to know if you feel theres still something missing?



regards



Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 17 Sep 2012 - 2:44 AM

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tonyguitar
tonyguitar e2 Member 232 forum poststonyguitar vcard Canada24 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2012 - 4:44 AM

The original and modification 1 remain the better images. I hope we can agree to disagree in a friendly manner. TG

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DanielaS
DanielaS e2 Member 2DanielaS vcard Romania3 Constructive Critique Points
17 Sep 2012 - 8:10 AM

Firstly I would like to thank you all for the advices. There are all constructive and helpful. Gives me new perspectives...

Secondly I want to say that I chose to include the window, the bucket and that vertical bar (part of the pottery machine) to show a part of the environment in which the man is working. Maybe a wide view was better, but the the room was really small and crowded and I wasn't able to do that nor I have the proper lenses. Also, the room was very dark and I am sure that at some moments of the day you couldn't see anything if there wasn't any electrical power. That is way I appreciated that I was there at the perfect time of the day that allowed natural light to come into the room and give a different touch to the pottery.

I have some other pictures of that day that don't include the window and I am focused on the clay and the potter's hands. I will upload them to show that I see what you are saying and also that you are right.

Last but not least, like TG, I prefer the first modification (because it is lighter and with more details on the potter) and the monochrome modification because it gives a different touch.

Regards,
Daniela

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arhab
arhab e2 Member 243 forum postsarhab vcard Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 3:12 AM

in my opinion, i will crop the window. i do not know why you are feeling something missing. but if you fell as that, maybe there is something wrong in composition or lighting.

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